I'm Edvasium. We're going to be unpacking the politics of the day from Stama saying he's fed up with Donald Trump to whether people on benefits should pay less to visit historic attractions.

And we'll talk about the demise of the savory anchovy paste gentleman's relish.

Joining me to spread their pungent views on the toast of political discussion,

Alice Demby, the opinion and features editor at City AM.

Welcome to the show Alice.

Thank you for having me.

And the veteran times writer Patrick Kid.

Welcome to the show Patrick.

It's a great shame there getting rid of Gentleman's Relish,

because you have the voice to advertise it. Say it again. Say Gentleman's Relish. It was the way you said it was quite thrilling. Gentleman's range. Yeah, it's like sort of Joanna Lumley. I could see you selling it. If they brought you in, they wouldn't need to scrap it. I want a career in voiceovers.

The gentleman's relish is obviously

the biggest topic of the day, but we're going to wait. The anticipation will build until we hear

your views on it, because we're going to start off with some minor issues. Let's start off

with the small story of Kier Stama, stepping up his criticism of Donald Trump at one point

drawing comparisons with Vladimir Putin. This was

him speaking to ITV. I'm fed up with the fact that families across the country see their bills

go up and down on energy. Businesses have bills go up and down on energy because of the actions

of Putin or Trump across the world.

The Prime Minister has said that NATO is in America's interests after the Times reported

that the US is now going to audit NATO members to decide who should be punished for failing to support the war in Iran.

Mark Ruta, the NATO Secretary General, visited the White House yesterday, and though he stopped

short of calling Trump Daddy this time, he still found himself having to try and mend relationships.

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