Standing Athwart History, Yelling "Slop!" (w/ John Ganz) [Teaser]
Know Your Enemy
Matthew Sitman
4.7 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 27 February 2026
⏱️ 3 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Rufo represents a relatively respectable corner of the right at this point. I mean, he's a Manhattan Institute fellow. |
| 0:07.8 | And they're involved in this kind of internecine struggle with Fuentes and other people to their right. |
| 0:15.1 | And the main different issues are Israel and anti-Semitism and kind of open embrace of biological racism, consuming |
| 0:24.4 | the right. But there's an irony, of course, which is Rufo himself obviously has been a shameless |
| 0:32.0 | spreader of lies and propaganda that are battenly racist, like what he said about the Haitians in Ohio |
| 0:39.8 | and trying to connect, you know, the Somali fraud situation in Minnesota to funding of terrorism. |
| 0:45.1 | There's no evidence of that. Even Trump's DOJ. They said, like, we don't see anything about that. |
| 0:49.9 | This is a fraud investigation. And he's also just been constantly tweeting horrible things about |
| 0:56.2 | Somalis that are racist, you know, saying they have low IQs and they're a drag on the United States. |
| 1:01.0 | And then he just seems to have this total lack of ability to see that he's doing the same thing |
| 1:06.1 | in a different way. And he's been doing that for a while. But it's interesting in a way, |
| 1:10.7 | like observing Rufo in this moment and seeing this double game he's been doing that for a while. But it's interesting in a way, like, |
| 1:11.0 | observing Rufo in this moment and seeing this double game he's playing, where he's like |
| 1:15.3 | encouraging extreme behavior and paranoid politics on the one hand, and then pretending |
| 1:21.9 | like he's a voice of reason, I mean, where have we seen that? That is William F. Buckley's role. |
| 1:28.7 | You know, this person who played this role as a serious intellectual and as a kind of genteel and courtly figure who was able to speak to |
| 1:34.4 | liberals and engaged in civic discourse was also kind of like, you know, log rolling for the extreme |
| 1:39.9 | right and injecting very toxic ideas through his magazine. And this goes back even before the |
| 1:45.1 | National Review to McCarthy and then their struggles trying to distance themselves unsuccessfully |
| 1:50.5 | from the birchers. And it goes all the way up through Pat Buchanan, the anti-Semitism controversy, |
| 1:55.1 | up through Trump and the unsuccessful attempts to fight off Trump and then just kind of, you know, |
| 2:00.3 | going V-She for Trump |
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