All right, welcome listeners to episode 131 of Know Your Enemy. I'm Matt Sitman, your podcast, co-host, and I'm here as always with my great friend, Sam at the Bell. Hey, Sam. Hi, Matt. How are you doing? Not great. You're not doing great. The world isn't doing great. And that is a nod to our topic today, which is the American and Israeli War against Iran.

Who could have seen this coming?

I know, right?

Luckily, we have a great guest to help us make sense of this moment.

Yes, we had on Matt Duss.

One of the left's great foreign policy minds.

He's currently the executive vice president at the Center for International Policy, but also he was a former foreign policy advisor for Bernie Sanders.

I think doing that work is how a lot of us first got to know, Matt.

And we were really, really thrilled.

He came on the show.

Yeah, I think this is a really good conversation.

Put a lot of pieces together for me about why this war is happening, about the

recent history. We provided historical context for the war, and Dust was extremely well-informed

about what might happen and where we're going. So for listeners who are kind of head-spiningly

following the news about the war that American Israel are prosecuting against Iran, this conversation

should help you orient yourself. Yes. And I should mention, too, we do talk some about

elements on the right. They're a long fixation with Iran. So you get that KYE angle in there as well.

For sure. Well, shall we get to some housekeeping items?

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