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🗓️ 26 August 2021
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Stan finds himself in a legal battle with Marvel that will lead the company to take Hollywood by storm and launch the modern version of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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0:00.0 | It's July 1961, 41 years before Stan Suesmoral. Stan Lee's convertible Buick whips down the |
0:22.6 | streets of Manhattan. Stan hits the gas and leaves the New York skyline behind him. Stan's |
0:28.6 | passenger, artist Jack Kirby, puffs on a cigar, and barely notices how fast Stan is driving. |
0:34.0 | Stan's taking Jack home to Long Island, and the two men use the time to brainstorm about the |
0:39.4 | new superhero team they're creating, the fantastic four. Jack, I'm telling you, we need something big, |
0:45.4 | but simple. Something to make it clear to the readers that these characters are different now. |
0:49.8 | They have their superpowers. Oh, gamma rays or something like that. But that's nothing new Stan. You |
0:56.1 | keep on talking about how we need to create something new and different. Well, different doesn't |
1:00.0 | have to mean complicated. Our story will be different because our characters are different. They'll |
1:04.2 | have regular problems. They bicker. They get jealous. Just like every other family. At that, |
1:10.4 | Jack Kirby gets excited. He has an idea. He gestures wildly with his cigar in his hand. Stan, okay, |
1:17.6 | okay. We'll grab them right from the cover. A monster coming up through the ground. It's |
1:23.0 | holding our hero, Sue Storm. Our guy, the thing. Look just as much of a monster as the one holding |
1:28.7 | Sue. Well, that's smart. Yeah, we don't know who's the hero and who's the villain and neither do the |
1:33.6 | people around them. They see this thing and they're horrified. You know, the citizens, the police, |
1:39.1 | and the government, they want nothing to do with them. But what is he? Is he an alien? Is this an |
1:45.0 | invasion? You know, our superheroes are feared. They're outsiders. Yeah, yeah, that's something different. |
1:51.8 | Stan's car, a coast along the streets of Long Island, towards the small, idyllic neighborhood, |
1:56.6 | where Jack makes this home. What if we start in the middle, Jack? Well, what do you mean? Well, |
2:01.3 | when we meet them, they're doing everyday things. We think we're going to see a typical origin, |
2:05.6 | story unfold, but then, but then something happens. They drop what they're doing and they rush |
2:10.8 | back to headquarters. They're already a team and they already have their superpowers. And then |
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