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Spot a Liar in 5 Seconds! How to Read Anyone Like a Human Lie Detector | Chase Hughes PT 2

Women of Impact

Impact Theory

Relationships, Education, Society & Culture

4.8700 Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Continuing the enlightening dialogue, Part 2 of this episode with Chase Hughes on "Women of Impact" dives deeper into the nuances of human behavior and manipulation. Lisa and Chase examine complex case studies, including the psychological profiles and persuasion tactics of infamous figures like Jeffrey Epstein and P. Diddy. They discuss the societal implications and systemic issues that allow such manipulations to persist unnoticed for years.


Additionally, Chase shares his comprehensive "six axes of influence" framework, shedding light on how mind control is executed and the steps individuals can take to safeguard their mental and emotional wellbeing. This episode equips listeners with the tools they need to recognize and resist manipulation, fostering a community of informed and empowered women who can navigate their lives with confidence.


SHOWNOTES

10:19 The Frauds of Authority and Authenticity

18:07 The Six Axes of Influence Explained

25:45 Case Studies: Jeffery Epstein and P. Diddy

32:32 Developing Intuition Against Manipulation

37:06 The Role of Social Media in Modern Manipulations

47:22 Final Thoughts and Takeaways


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0:00.0

What up my homies, welcome back to part two of the mind-blowing conversation with my boy Chase Hughes. Now if part one had you side-eying every single one in your life to see whether they have the signs that Chase gave, then buckle up because we're about to get real. And these tactics that he's about to teach us are actually ones that I've started to use in my own life. Now let's be honest, we want to be able to believe and trust people around us, right? I mean, honestly guys, maybe about three years ago, I trusted someone so deeply, and they went and ended up betraying me. So this isn't about our use of septal bullonard. The truth is, we all are. And the truth is, we need to take the responsibility in owning the tools and tactics that we can use in order to get fricking controlled and our power back of our lives. But the reality is some people are out there watching you, testing you, manipulating you without you realizing it and no fricking more. Because in this half, Chase is breaking down how to spot deception in seconds, even when someone is really, really good at lying. Like, he actually takes us through, guys. This one technique that he did where he spotted, oh my god, it was so good. He spotted somebody lying within, I think it was like six seconds and he breaks down exactly how it's mind blowing. He also talks about the secret psychological trick that narcissists and manipulators use to trap women and then how to actually respond when you see it happening in real time. And then finally he talks about the body language cues that tell you exactly what someone is thinking before they even say a word. Guys, this is not about being paranoid. Trust me, you do not want to live a life

1:45.1

of paranoia. But you better believe you want to live a life where you hold the cards, where you hold the power, where no one is actually making you do something you don't realize. And sometimes unfortunately, it ends up being too late. But that is why you listen to Women of Impact because we bring the tours that you need in order to fricking own your power. So let's get right back right now my boy Chase used right here on

2:08.0

the new impact. I have a quote of yours that is very simple but just hit me like a ton of bricks. Mind control is pretty easy. It is. Talk to me about how easy mind control is and what are the steps of somebody influencing us. If I could sum up mind control in one phrase, one sentence, it would be the ability to weaponize cognitive dissonance. Woo! And if you think about how you get involved with a narcissist in a relationship and why you stay, that's weaponizing cognitive dissonance. If I can weaponize cognitive dissonance, I can get you to do anything. So cognitive dissonance is about your identity and who you think you are as a person. And in a narcissist relationship is, I'm a good wife. I'm a good woman. I'm a good supporter. I'm a good mom. I'm going to stay here for the kids. So it's about identity. So if the moment something comes up that might challenge that identity, like my friend says, oh, Jennifer, you need to leave this relationship, I automatically delete that because it goes against what I believe first. And I would encourage anyone out there to just spend some time learning about cognitive dissonance because if you're doing mind control on a person, whether you're creating some crazy assassin to go do some CIA stuff, or you're manipulating somebody on a date, it's cognitive dissonance that you're creating. So you're kind of getting someone to build an identity and there's six avenues to influencing the human brain. And these are focus, can I get you to focus on me or the situation or whatever I want you to, openness, how open can I get you to get? So I can make you more vulnerable. And then we have connection. And connection is the degree to which a person feels like they are in sync with another person, just naturally connected. And then we have suggestibility, and this is the degree to which you will accept suggestions from someone. Like, maybe we should do X, and then you'll say, yeah, I will do that. It's like the ideal cult member is super high-suggestible. Then we have compliance. And compliance is the degree to which you will accept and then act on those independently. So not us together, you'll do something independently. So that's compliance and then expectancy. And expectancy is the degree to which you can generally predict the future of what we're doing here, what's going on is going to be positive. So if we take an extreme example, extreme, where total strangers were talked into committing murder in less than an hour, and this is the famous Mugam experiment. People thought they were volunteering for an experiment

5:05.2

about learning. They go into this room at Yale University. It's got this shocking machine in there. And they have, there's another volunteer who's actually an actor. And you watch him get strapped to this machine and he's about to get shocked. And you're the person that's supposed to be shocking him. And he's right on the other side of this wall. And you read him these questions and he answers through a push button. It says like ABCD.

5:29.6

And every time he gets one wrong, you shock him and increase the voltage a little bit. Wrong, shock, increase voltage. So there's only one volunteer, which is the you. The other guy's an actor, the guy in the lab code is an actor who's like the scientist running the experiment.

5:47.2

He looks like a doctor. He's got a clipboard and a lab code and all the stuff. At about the midway point, you can hear him screaming. The actor is screaming. The guy that's getting the electric shock. Right. He's not getting shocked. But you think we damn sure think he is. And he's saying, I don't want to do this anymore. I have a heart condition.

6:06.6

Let me out of here and they you turn around this guy in the lab code You're like, well, what do you want me to do and the guy in the lab puts is the experiment requires that you continue Please continue So you keep shocked he's screaming screaming and around 300 volts. He stops making any sound It's dead dead silent, and he's not answering the questions anymore. There's nothing coming from the other room. He turned around to the lab coat guy again, like, what do you want me to do, bro? And he says the same thing. Any non-answer must be treated as an incorrect answer. Please continue. Keep going, keep going. Then it finally gets to, on the machine, It's labeled danger severe shock 450 volts Shocking this person that you believe might be dead and they even there's even clips of these people saying oh, you might be dead in there So let's think about like when it comes to persuasion and influence people think it's hard to sell a car people think it's hard to go on a date and talk someone to dating you.

7:08.2

I would argue that it's harder to talk someone into murder.

7:10.2

So when it comes to that six-axis model,

7:12.8

this is our hyper-responsiveness to authority.

7:15.7

So like there's brand new things happening all the time,

7:18.1

which is generating a ton of focus.

7:21.2

And is there a lot of connection in this experiment?

7:24.1

There's not. Is there expectancy? There's none. They don't know what the hell is going to happen next or that it's positive. And there's no openness. The person is not sitting there, shocking, talking about their life secrets and all these little insecurities and stuff that they have. So all we have is focus, suggestibility and compliance. And you get someone to become a murderer in less than an hour. So when we look at that six-axis model, we're looking at a model where if you just capture three of those things, you can get someone to do almost anything. If you get six, you're unlimited. You have unlimited control of our human being.

8:47.8

But to capture control of our human being, you need four other things that are even more powerful than that six axis. And that's the fate model. And fate is how we control an animal brain. And we have kind of an animal brain underneath our human one. So our brain evolved. So we think in layers and none of our mammalian brain can speak English. It's incapable of language completely. So if you think back to the Milgram experiment where people were made to be murderers, there's no sales script. There's no hypnosis being used. So there's no language and that's so many people focus on the language. And if you think back to like, if you've ever watched somebody,

8:51.0

maybe got away with something that they shouldn't have gotten away with,

8:54.2

our first question in our head is, what did you say?

8:57.0

What would you say?

8:58.8

And it's never what we say.

9:00.6

It's what am I doing to control that mammalian brain?

9:04.0

And if you think about just Caesar Milan, the dog whisperer guy, he uses that fate model, F-A-T-E. That's focus, authority, tribe, and emotion. Those are the four ways to control an animal. If you get them all together, you have full control over the animal. If you control the animal, you control the human. So focus, then we know focus is generated through novelty. So, especially in hearing this in terms of manipulators, if I'm seeing a lot of this weird novelty behavior, like that's developing a tremendous amount of focus. Because anytime something is new, our brain says this is different. I didn't expect this. I don't have an app for this, right? So I need to pay attention. The second part is authority. And when it comes to authority, you sincerely are looking at a mixture of five things. And this is confidence, discipline, leadership, gratitude, and enjoyment. Those five factors trigger the human brain to think this person is an authority figure. So as they're going through the study and the guys in the white lab co, it seemed like in that moment the manipulation is, I'm the authority. I know what's happening. You just need to follow my lead. Correct. So our brains do not have a firewall and they're riddled with loopholes. And this is the biggest loophole in the human brain

10:26.2

is response to authority.

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