You are listening to the Allender Center podcast with Dr. Dan Allender.

This week, Dan and I continue our conversation about the reality of spiritual warfare.

This is a big, complex topic.

So in this episode, we take a look at some of the

triggers and resistance people might feel when they hear the term spiritual warfare. While there

are valid issues and questions to consider, we believe this category is crucial to the work we

do here at the Allender Center and the ongoing work of restoration.

Rachel and I are addressing spiritual warfare. And from where we left off, Rachel, part of the question that we both have talked about is,

one of the things that kept us from engaging in spiritual warfare was all the

weirdness.

Yeah.

Just frankly, weird shit that goes on with regard to people who seem to get drawn to

doing this kind of work.

And as a result, I know for myself, I've always believed as a Christian that there was an unseen world,

but I also knew that I was a therapist.

That's my primary work.

And I have friends who do spiritual warfare, deliverance, actually addressing the issues of possession.

But it's not my work.

I'm all for it, just like I'm for plumbers.

I don't have to be one to support them.

But I think a lot of that had to do with,

I just didn't want to be associated with people who

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