You're listening to the Allender Center podcast with Dr. Dan Allender.

This week, Dan and I continue our conversation about the realities of spiritual warfare

by talking about the crucial intersections between spiritual warfare and the storywork that we facilitate at the Islander Center.

Through deep, meaningful engagement of our stories of harm, we prepare our hearts to grapple with spiritual warfare in a way that brings kindness, compassion, and ultimately the freedom that can only come from God.

Well, it's my privilege again to step into the issues of spiritual warfare.

You know, Rachel, the last time, actually the first two times, I don't think I did a very good job of introducing you in Your position in the Outlander Center.

Do you mind clarify?

Sure.

Sure.

Well, I am the assistant director of program development and admissions,

and I've had the privilege of being a part of the teaching staff for over six years now since we began.

Yeah. You know, when I think of, I mean, I could have said that, and I'm glad you did. But, you know, the leadership position you've taken on and the pastoral position that you've taken on,

it isn't that you aren't a brilliant therapist. You didn't actually go through the Master of Arts

and Counseling Psychology program, but nonetheless, you're one of the best therapists I've ever

known. So the fact is, you bring a very significant theological and pastoral presence to our

lives, but also to the life of the

Islander Center.

So is that anything more you want to say on that other than, yeah, that's true?

That feels very true.

And I would say is a deep privilege to get to play pastorally on behalf of not like only

our staff and our team, but the people that come to be

with us in our trainings and in our midst.

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