Welcome to a new special series called The Bathroom Break.

That extra 10 minutes, you either have to listen to marketing tips or use the bathroom or both.

But I don't recommend both, but that's your choice.

This collab is going to be super fun.

We have Daniel Murray from the Marketing Millennials and me, Jay Schwettleson, from the Do This Not That podcast and subjectline.com.

Each episode in the series, we are going to go over quick tips about different marketing topics.

And if you want to be in the bathroom, fine.

Just don't tell us about it.

Thanks for checking it out.

We are back for another bathroom break.

This is Jay Schwettleson.

And I am here with the great Daniel Murray.

We both got back from doing some travel so I have a

random question before we get going Daniel. Do you, when you get back, is your

suitcase full of stuff that you just should never have packed and you're

an overpacker or are you spot on? You only bring with you

exactly what you need.

I am at the other end of the spectrum.

I'm re-wearing clothes because I packed too little. I always underestimate that I need to change something or I need to, I might get sweaty, you know, bigger guy here.

So you never, you never, I always lean in the side of overpacking.

For example, Ari brought two suitcases and she got double the amount of clothes that I got for

this trip, which is respectable.

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