Hello everybody. I end work at the end of the day right now and it is still light

out. The crocuses are popping up which is just like always a sign of hope and

spring. Suddenly summer doesn't feel like a lie that I tell myself to get

through the winter but a real thing that's coming. And so we wanted to talk to you

about this thing that we can now wrap our minds around. And that is camp. Calling

all magnificent people. We have been planning this summer camp for almost a

year. We have been wanting to do a summer camp since the beginning of not

sorry productions. And so I wanted to share with you some of the themes that

have been emerging for us and dreaming at this time together. So I thought who

better to talk to about this? And our very own camp director Natalie Fokerts.

Natalie, thank you so much for agreeing to speak with me today. Thanks for

having me. It's excited to be here. Natalie, can you just tell people what are

you most excited about for people to experience at camp? There are so many

things that I am really excited for about camp. You know something that we've

been talking about a lot is how do we see camp as this opportunity for world

building? And as this opportunity to step into an entirely new world where we

get to make the rules with one another, we get to decide what care looks like,

how we practice power, how we rest, how we play, how we really engage with one

another in that way. And so I'm so excited to get to have a space where all of

our communities come together and we get to be playing with that altogether. So

you are working for not sorry as our camp director is part of your field

education at Harvard Divinity School, which means that you had to make a case to

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