Special Edition: Expanding Therapeutic Approaches with NHS Policies

Counselling Tutor podcast

Kenneth Kelly

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🗓️ 15 February 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Special Edition: Expanding Therapeutic Approaches with NHS Policies In this Special Edition of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your host Rory Lees-Oakes speaks with Meg Moss from the National Counselling and Psychotherapy Society (NCPS) about how NHS policy design could support a wider range of therapeutic approaches. Key Takeaways: Human Connection in Therapy: Human connection is a vital factor of effective therapy. Common Factors research highlights that the quality of the therapist-client relationship is the most significant predictor of therapeutic success. Limitations of RCTs: NHS systems often prioritise structured interventions like CBT due to their reliance on Randomised Controlled Trials (RCTs), neglecting the relational depth crucial for therapy effectiveness. Qualitative vs Quantitative Data: Qualitative data, such as case studies and client interviews, provides deeper insights into therapy outcomes compared to quantitative measures. Policy Challenges: Current NHS mental health services are heavily policy-driven, with rigid protocols that can lead to therapist burnout and limit therapeutic flexibility. Direct Access to Counselling Campaign: NCPS is campaigning to give GPs more flexibility to refer directly to counsellors and psychotherapists, promoting client choice and improving mental health support. The NCPS Campaign Aims to: Prioritise human connection in therapy services and NHS policy design. Expand access to diverse therapeutic approaches through accredited registers. Advocate for flexible models that allow clients to choose therapists and therapy types. Promote policies that improve mental health service efficacy by focusing on relational dynamics. Links and Resources Counselling Skills Academy Advanced Certificate in Counselling Supervision Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide Counsellor CPD Counselling Study Resource Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide Counselling Tutor Shop Facebook group Website Online and Telephone Counselling: A Practitioner's Guide Online and Telephone Counselling Course

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0:00.0	Welcome to the counseling tutor podcast.
0:06.0	The must listen to podcast for counselors, psychotherapists and counseling students.
0:14.0	Here are your hosts, Worrily's Oaks and Ken Kelly.
0:20.0	Hello and Rory Liz Oaks and Ken Kelly.
0:28.3	Hello and welcome to this special edition of the counselling tutor podcast.
0:31.6	I'm Rory and today I'll be flying solo.
0:35.9	Well my co-host Ken takes a well-earned break.
0:41.1	We know that human connection is a key factor in achieving positive therapy outcomes. And with that in mind, I'm thrilled to welcome back a familiar voice,
0:47.8	one of our frequent flyers on the podcast, Meg Moss, Head of Policy at the National
0:53.4	Counseling and Psychotherapy Society. Today we'll be
0:57.9	discussing how NHS policy design could support a wider range of therapeutic approaches. So Meg,
1:06.5	welcome back. Hello, Rory. Thank you. Yes, lovely to be back.
1:12.2	Yes, yes, as I say, a frequent flyer. And today's discussion is, I think it's a really
1:20.5	important one about how we evidence good outcomes in therapy? What is the secret formula for showing positive outcomes
1:34.0	in therapy? And there's a bit of a collision between ways of collating data. And I'm thinking
1:42.8	regarding maybe how the NHS connect data and the wide
1:48.5	array of research that actually shows what makes therapy work. I wonder what conclusions
1:56.6	you're coming to, Meg, on that. Yeah. So, you know, we, so you and I and, out of anyone in practice, know that human connection
2:09.7	is vital for effective therapy.
2:13.9	And common factors research, which I know you know an awful lot about, shows that the most significant predictor of therapeutic success isn't necessarily the specific intervention use, but the quality of the relationship between therapists and the client.
2:33.3	So that alliance, so how safe, how understood and how engaged the client feels,
2:41.5	that plays a key role in whether therapy leads to meaningful change.
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