Special Edition: A Person of Flynnterest
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 10 November 2017
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
The Wall Street Journal this morning broke a major story: Special Counsel Robert Mueller is investigating President Trump's former national security advisor, Gen. Michael Flynn, for allegedly plotting with Turkish officials to arrange the extrajudicial removal of Fethullah Gulen from the United States in exchange for a boatload of money. We put together an emergency podcast with Shane Harris, one of the reporters on the story, Ryan Evans of War on the Rocks, and Lawfare's Benjamin Wittes, Susan Hennessey, Paul Rosenzweig, and Steve Vladeck to cover all the angles. What does it mean? And where does it go from here?
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast contains advertising. |
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| 0:22.0 | rational security, chatter, law fair no bull, and the aftermath. |
| 0:29.0 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast November 10th, 2017. |
| 0:37.0 | Special edition, a person of flintrest. |
| 0:43.0 | The country woke up this morning to a remarkable story in the Wall Street Journal. |
| 0:49.0 | A planned kidnapping, a very large sum of money, |
| 0:55.0 | and a new front in the Mueller investigation. |
| 0:59.0 | We put together a quick and dirty podcast with Shane Harris, |
| 1:04.0 | one of the two reporters on the story with Ryan Evans, |
| 1:09.0 | editor of War on the Rocks, and an expert on all things Turkey and Fatula Gouline, |
| 1:16.0 | the punitive victim of the kidnapping. |
| 1:20.0 | Paul Rosenzweig, veteran of the Ken Star investigation, |
| 1:24.0 | and longtime LawFair contributor, and Steve Latak of the University of Texas, |
| 1:31.0 | and also a LawFair contributor. |
| 1:35.0 | They all joined Susan Hennessey and me for an hour of conversation |
| 1:40.0 | about what the heck to make of this latest story, what it means, |
| 1:46.0 | and where it's all going. |
| 1:49.0 | It's the LawFair podcast, special edition, a person of flintrest. |
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