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The Lawfare Podcast

Susan Landau is Listening in on You

The Lawfare Podcast

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2017

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Technology presents both consumer convenience and risk, creating a conflict between security and privacy as government agencies seek to weaken the protections that consumers want heightened. Cybersecurity expert and advocate of liberal encryption policy, Susan Landau, explores this challenge and the need for maintaining cybersecurity in her new book “Listening in: Cybersecurity in an Insecure Age.” Last week at the Hoover Book Soiree, Benjamin Wittes and  Susan Landau discussed the issues behind encryption, whether law enforcement can manage without signals content, the impact of end-to-end encryption on security, and much more.  

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0:25.6

No Bull and the aftermath.

0:33.9

Why should this device be openable?

0:37.0

Why should the information there?

0:38.4

There's plenty of information that is shared with the cloud, but why should this device

0:42.2

be openable?

0:43.2

Let's go one step further.

0:44.5

Is your phone different from your iPad?

0:46.3

Is your iPad different from your laptop?

0:48.7

Should we create a world in which law enforcement has the right to get in the technical capability

0:54.4

and I'll go to something an XNSA person said to me once.

0:58.0

He said, you know, the law gives us the right to get certain information, but it never

1:04.1

said it should be easy.

1:06.0

Law enforcement is asking for it to be easy and my concern is that it by making it easy

1:11.4

for law enforcement, we're making it easy for various actors.

1:16.0

I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast November 7th, 2017.

1:23.6

This is the voice of Susan Landau, Cybersecurity Guru and Advocate of Liberal Encryption Policy

1:31.4

on her new book, Listening in Cybersecurity in an Insecure Age.

1:38.6

Susan joined me at the latest Hoover Book Suare for a wide-ranging conversation about

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