The Hi, welcome to Lizard People. This is a show where we talk all about conspiracy theories,

crazy people, and kooky ideas. all about what's going on behind the scenes.

I'm your host Caitlin Hampstead.

Let's get to the show. Okay, so just see Ray. What are you up to? I know we're on the phone so I can't really see what you're doing today.

Well, I am in the Warden's office. He gave me, he was kind enough to lend me his phone so we could have a little chit chat and I do appreciate it.

A lot of times they say that prisoners don't get any rights, I have to say I was awful nice

with him today. That's so do you do you feel like you have a good relationship with the

Warden? Well as good as you can, I've been in here forever.

In the years, I'm in here for life, so I figure we might as well get along,

because he's, I'm gonna end up having to have to have a favor here and there.

Oh, what are the, yeah, I've heard that that's sort of the,

the transactions of prison or favors.

I don't really have mine. I don't know if you know this about me but people say just here at Belmont is the town garbage. So I don't get any visitors really so the only thing I really have to

barter are compliments. Oh so what would be like an example of a compliment. Well it would be like all you know it'd be like

Warden Snyder I think that you look very clean shaving today something like that or I

like your smile you know that sort of thing and you compliment them you know like

on the pictures or this children and things and it works yeah that's so sweet.

You know, you say you're...

You gotta do what you gotta do.

I've said a lot of them are just flat out lies, but...

Oh yeah, do you feel like you've made some friends in prison, you know, some other outcasts?

Hmm.

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