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War on the Rocks

Southward and Eastward Pressure on Russian Forces

War on the Rocks

War on the Rocks

News, Politics

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2022

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Mike Kofman and Ryan Evans recorded this episode on the war as they return home from their week-long research trip to Ukraine. They cover the fight for Kherson, Russian failures in the east, Russia's attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure, and dirty bomb threats. If you're interested in hearing more from Mike, we are launching a members-only podcast that he hosts called "The Russia Contingency." We offer a sample of one of the early episodes of that show, which features Mike chatting with Konrad Muzyka about the current and future threat to Ukraine from Belarus. Become a member to get access.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You are listening to the War on the Rocks podcast on Strategy, Defense and Foreign Affairs.

0:15.2

My name is Ryan Evans and I'm sitting here with Michael Kaufman.

0:18.4

We actually just returned from a week-long research trip in Ukraine. We're driving away from the Polish border to

0:26.0

Crackow International Airport. We were also joined on the trip by Conrad Musicott and

0:31.2

Franz Stephan Gaddy and we learned quite a lot. We have some

0:35.6

members-only content coming out on the trip from Michael's new show the Russia

0:41.1

contingency with Michael Kaufman but we also have a podcast here for you,

0:46.0

our normal update on the war.

0:48.0

Sorry to keep you waiting for so long, but it was a little tough to record while we were in country.

0:52.0

Mike, thanks for joining me as you sit in the backseat of a car. but it was a little tough to record while we were in country.

0:52.6

Mike, thanks for joining me as you sit in the backseat of a car next to me.

0:56.2

Yeah, and more importantly, Ryan, thanks for joining me on the strip.

1:00.2

I had this idea some time ago and I think we were long overdue and it was great to bring

1:05.3

Ryan and a couple of fellow colleagues from the Russian military analysis world to Ukraine.

1:11.4

We have been following the war. I think we've all been

1:14.6

tracking events and developments for many months, but it's one thing to do it

1:18.8

remotely thousands of miles away or to stare at satellite imagery. It's a very entirely different affair to be in the

1:25.2

country, to talk to people there and to actually go to some of the regions and put two feet

1:30.7

on the ground, you know, insofar as that's prudent to do.

1:33.6

And I think we had the opportunity to do that over the past week, and it was a really

1:38.7

interesting experience and learned quite a bit from being in the country.

1:42.3

And to some extent also was an exploratory trip

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