It turns out that it also was designed to test this idea of whether or not you have to have a drop in insulin in order to lose fat mass.

The model made a prediction that said, no, absolutely not. You should, if you cut

fat from the diet, nothing should happen to the amount of fat that you're burning, nothing

that should happen to insulin, and therefore you should lose fat. And so there were, you know,

some claims out there about how carbohydrate restriction is required for body fat loss.

And I found those kind of suggestions a little bit strange,

and I didn't quite understand their basis,

and it turned out to Sigma Nutrition Radio, the podcast that gives you access to the top minds from academia, medical professionals, and

practitioners of applied nutrition as it relates to health, performance and body composition.

We're here at episode 88, and I want to start with a very quick thank you for all the amazing

feedback on last week's episode with Dr. Brendan Egan from University College Dublin

here in Ireland. It was an absolute pleasure for me to have him on and kind of showcase

some of the world-class research talent we have here and some great feedback from all around

the world from you guys, sending in email responses comments on the on the blog post

as well as messages on social media and reviews on iTunes and I do read every single one and

I can't thank you enough so thank you for doing that and thank you for everyone who continues to

listen to the show those of you who are regular listeners it means a lot and thank you for everyone who continues to listen to the show those of you who

are regular listeners uh it it means a lot and thank you very much and uh if you're new to the show

hopefully you enjoys today's episode and you become a regular listener too so speaking of today's episode

we are here at episode 88 and and today I have the absolute pleasure

of talking with Dr. Kevin Hall from the National Institutes of Health, and he's someone that

I am not only have so much respect for, because I've been a big fan of the research being

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