Sin and Total Depravity

White Horse Inn

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🗓️ 15 January 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Many churches preach that your biggest problem is that you’re not living your best life now. Rather than calling people to repentance, they call them to “try harder, do better” so that they can be fulfilled, healthy, and happy. Reformed theology provides a doctrine to help counter this wrong diagnosis of our true problem: total depravity. But sometimes, this doctrine sounds much more like “utter depravity,” leaving nothing good or redeemable about humanity. In this episode of White Horse Inn, hosts Michael Horton, Justin Holcomb, and Bob Hiller consider how we hold total depravity in tension with the goodness of humanity.

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0:00.0	If you have your scum as the starting point, God tolerates you at best.
0:07.0	Yeah.
0:08.0	As opposed to the way Exodus 19, 5-'re my treasured possessions?
0:13.6	What in the world?
0:15.0	Well, well, if you look at Genesis 1 and 2,
0:17.4	that makes sense.
0:18.0	You're my treasured possessions.
0:19.1	I want you back.
0:20.4	You actually lose out on the beauty of the identity of what Christ is one in our redemption that we were because of sin, children of wrath.
0:28.0	You do the utter depravity thing, it ruins a lot of other theology. For example, Christ comes in the flesh. He has not come as junk. He puts on a human flesh that is not sinful.
0:42.4	Or he couldn't have saved us. Or he couldn't have been actually been. he puts on a human flesh that is not sinful.
0:42.8	Or he couldn't have saved us.
0:43.8	Or he couldn't have been actually been our savior.
0:45.4	So if you do this utter depravity route,
0:47.6	it undermines the incarnation,
0:49.9	it undermines the dying and the rising of Jesus,
0:52.4	it undermines the resurrection, the rising of Jesus, it undermines the resurrection and all of these doctrines then
0:56.4	become completely misunderstood. applying the riches of the reformation to the modern church.
1:13.6	This is Whitehorse Sin, a weekly roundtable discussion about theology and culture. Many of us are familiar with the words of Isaac Watts, him,
1:34.6	Alas, and did my Savior bleed, and did my sovereign die.
1:39.8	Did he devote that sacred head to such a worm as I?
1:46.5	In this particular program, we are continuing our series on over corrections.
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