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Bad Gays

Simeon Solomon and Sascha Schneider - Live from Podfest Berlin

Bad Gays

Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller

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4.6 • 842 Ratings

🗓️ 25 December 2023

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Subscribe to EXTRA BAD GAYS, our monthly conversation on politics and culture, here or by clicking "Subscribe" on Apple Podcasts. Merry Christmas! Happy holidays! As usual, we're making our contribution to family holiday entertainment with an hour-plus podcast about sodomy. Today's program, recorded live at Podfest Berlin in October 2023, profiles two artists. We start with the gay Jewish pre-Raphaelite Simeon Solomon, whose story is a snapshot of the complexities of aa changing English society in the Victorian era, full of darkness, violence and repression, but lit too by a sense of a sort of waking dream of the possibilities of a rapidly shrinking world and modernising world. He was animated by those dreams, intoxicated by them, but his own desires would come into conflict with a society that was scared by these changes and would use all the tools in its power to halt them. Coming up the rear is Sascha Schneider, a German painter, sculptor, and bodybuilding instructor (does he, you know, run a bodybuilding academy?) whose work characterized both the Weimar-era masculinist gay political movement and four generations of Germans’ racist attitudes towards Native Americans.  Enjoy! Wear headphones if Grandma is around. Season 7 drops very soon.  To view the slideshow, click here. SOURCES Michael J. Cowen, Cult of the Will: Nervousness and German Modernity (State College: Penn State University Press, 2012) Roberto C. Ferrari and Carolyn Conroy, "Simeon Solomon Two-Part Biography," Simeon Solomon Research Archive, 2000-2023, https://www.simeonsolomon.com/simeon-solomon-biography.html Karl-May-Gesellschaft, https://www.karl-may-gesellschaft.de/index.php?seite=mininewsdetails&sprache=de&showdetail=133 Minneapolis Institute of Art, "Whatever Happened to the First Gay Art Star?" June 3, 2021, https://medium.com/minneapolis-institute-of-art/what-really-happened-to-the-first-gay-art-star-e5b830e19f86 H. Glenn Penny, Kindred By Choice: Germans and American Indians (Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 2013) Erwin in het Panhuis, "Karl Mays ziemlich offen schwuler Künstfreund," queer.de, 20. September 2020, https://www.queer.de/detail.php?article_id=37110

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0:00.0

All right, are we set? All right, quiet in the studio, please.

0:05.0

Hello and welcome to a very special live edition of Badgays, a podcast all about evil and complicated queer people in history.

0:30.8

Coming to you today from Podfest, Berlin. My name is Hugh Lemmy. I'm a writer and author.

0:36.1

And I'm Ben Miller, a writer, researcher,

0:37.9

and member of the board of the Shulles Museum here in Berlin. So we're doing something a bit unusual

0:42.8

today, which is we're going to do a double header, a back-to-back of two different bad

0:47.2

gays who lived quite different lives and different times, but I think who have stories that speak to

0:52.4

each other. Yeah, they kind of run into each other, one to the other,

0:55.0

and they're both people that we've thought about doing in the past,

0:57.0

but we could never quite get a full episode out of them.

1:00.0

And so now we've got a sort of half episode on each to share with you here.

1:05.0

And what you here get in our live audience is the extra special visual component. So please react loudly so that our audience

1:15.9

listening on our feed knows that they should click through the link in the show notes, which

1:21.0

will be there to take a look at these visuals because we're talking about two artists, and

1:25.4

so we get to actually show you some of their work.

1:28.3

So do you want to get us started to you?

1:30.3

Sure, yeah. And if you are listening to the podcast on our feed, then yeah, check out the visuals and we'll give you some clues as when to click through.

1:40.3

So I want to start with the story of a guy called Simeon Solomon. Next slide, please, Ben.

1:47.6

This is his self-portrait as a young man, emanating twink energy. And his story really is a snapshot,

1:55.2

the sort of complexities of a sort of changing English society in the Victorian era, a time that

2:00.0

was full of darkness and violence and repression,

2:03.9

but there was lit by a sense of a sort of a waking dream of the possibilities of this new, rapidly shrinking world and modernising world.

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