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Bad Gays

Karl Lagerfeld

Bad Gays

Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller

History

4.6842 Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2024

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Are you wearing the Chanel boots? Yes, we are. A white-haired, powdered, starch-cuffed petty dictator who ruled over the expanding business with an iron fist, stopping every once in a while to make a misogynist or racist public comment, Karl Lagerfeld was one of the most influential figures in the fashion industry as it shifted into late capitalist hyperdrive. Come for the racist and misogynist public comments, stay for Lagerfeld's great love, Jacques de Bascher, who may more perfectly epitomize Evil Twink Energy than anyone we've discussed on our show. Click here to subscribe to our monthly podcast "Extra Bad Gays" and support the work we do to make the show. Click here to buy our book, BAD GAYS: A HOMOSEXUAL HISTORY. ----more---- SOURCES: Christian Allaire, “The Incredible Dandy Style of Jacques de Bascher, Karl Lagerfeld’s Longtime Partner | Vogue,” Vogue, April 27, 2023, https://www.vogue.com/slideshow/jacques-de-bascher-dandy-style-karl-lagerfeld-partner Irina Baconsky, “Jacques de Bascher: An Exhibition,” 032c, March 11, 2020, https://032c.com/magazine/jacques-de-bascher-an-exhibition Holly Brubach, “School of Chanel,” The New Yorker, February 19, 1989, https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1989/02/27/school-of-chanel John Colapinto, “Karl Lagerfeld’s Fashion Empire,” The New Yorker, March 12, 2007, https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/19/in-the-now Brock Colyar, “The Man in an 18-Year Relationship With Karl Lagerfeld,” The Cut, February 20, 2019, https://www.thecut.com/2019/02/who-was-jacques-de-bascher.html Daniel Harris, “The Electronic Funeral: Mourning Versace,” The Antioch Review 56, no. 2 (1998): 154–63, https://doi.org/10.2307/4613651 Beatrice Hazlehurst, “Karl Lagerfeld Depicts Hitler in Political Cartoon to Criticize Angela Merkel - PAPER Magazine,” October 12, 2017, https://www.papermag.com/karl-lagerfeld-depicts-hitler-in-political-cartoon-to-criticize-angela-merkel Michael Hobbes and Aubrey Gordon, “Diet Book Deep Dive: The Karl Lagerfeld Diet,” Maintenance Phase, accessed February 14, 2024, https://maintenancephase.buzzsprout.com/1411126/9898517 Anisha Mansuri, “The Met Gala: Ignoring Lagerfeld’s Islamophobia and Misogyny,” The New Arab (The New Arab, October 18, 2022), https://www.newarab.com/opinion/met-gala-ignoring-lagerfelds-islamophobia-and-misogyny William Middleton, Paradise Now: The Extraordinary Life of Karl Lagerfeld (New York, NY: Harper, 2023) Melissa Minton, “Karl Lagerfeld’s Most Controversial Quotes over the Years,” The New York Post, April 28, 2023, sec. Page Six, https://pagesix.com/article/karl-lagerfeld-most-controversial-quotes/ David Rakoff, Don’t Get Too Comfortable: The Indignities of Coach Class, The Torments of Low Thread Count, The Never- Ending Quest for Artisanal Olive Oil, and Other First World Problems, Reprint Edition (Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group, 2006). “Karl Lagerfeld: A Line of Beauty,” The Metropolitan Museum of Art, accessed February 12, 2024, https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/a-line-of-beauty “King Karl,” Kids of Dada, accessed February 12, 2024, https://www.kidsofdada.com/blogs/magazine/11625457-king-karl Our intro and outro music are, respectively, Arpeggia Colorix, by Yann Terrien, and a tune written for us by DJ Michael Oswell Graphic Designer.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Bad Gaze, a podcast all about evil and complicated queer people in history.

0:20.0

My name is Hugh Lemmy. I'm a writer and author.

0:22.5

And I'm Ben Miller, a writer, researcher and member of the board of the Shvulles Museum in Berlin.

0:28.3

And currently nuzzling me is our silent third co-host, Fano the Cat.

0:33.7

Hello, Fauno.

0:34.5

Hello, Fano.

0:36.2

So, yeah, thanks for bearing with us.

0:38.0

We hope you enjoyed our special over the break on Simon and Sasha Schneider.

0:44.2

And I hope that those of you who've been supporting us on Patreon or subscribed on Apple Podcasts

0:49.8

have enjoyed our new monthly show Extra Bad Gays.

0:52.4

And if you want more of us in your life, and if you

0:55.6

want a monthly show that comes, whether we're in the middle of releasing a season or not, you can

1:00.2

visit patreon.com slash Bad Gays Pod or write an Apple Podcasts. Click subscribe. And that support really does

1:06.9

help us make the show. So thank you so much for doing that, those of you who have,

1:12.3

and we hope you enjoy it. This month, we're going to be talking about the plan to create a

1:16.8

new fire island somewhere in the Mediterranean. And the good news is that they have discount

1:22.4

offers you for influencers and gay content creators. So we can actually get our discounted Bad Gays Manor in the New Fire Island somewhere in the Climedia Circus that they locate this place in.

1:37.5

Well, you're mocking it, but this is going to give us another six seasons of material, so we should be supporting it.

1:41.8

Absolutely.

1:43.3

Yeah.

1:48.7

Yeah, the Bad Gays extra has been really fun to do. I think last month we did a whole series on good and bad gay Christmas movies.

1:55.7

So that's the sort of stuff we're talking about, but also more serious complex issues as well.

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