Show 1301: What Are Forever Chemicals Doing in Food Packaging?
The People's Pharmacy
Joe and Terry Graedon
4.6 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 13 May 2022
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
In our nationally syndicated radio show this week, our guests discuss “forever chemicals” (PFAS) used in a wide range of products. How do they affect our health?
What Are PFAS, or Forever Chemicals?
Scientists refer to a large class of synthetic chemicals, per- and poly-fluoroalkyl substances, or PFAS, as “forever chemicals.” A Dupont chemist created the first one in 1938. It later became famous as Teflon. Other PFAS also have nonstick properties. In addition, they may help make products water repellent or stain resistant. Consequently, they are found in a multitude of everyday products, from carpets to rain jackets to food packaging.
What’s the Problem with PFAS?
The distinctive feature of PFAS is that they contain chemical bonds between carbon and fluorine. This combination does not seem to occur in nature, and it has proven exceptionally durable. As a result, the PFAS last an extremely long time–hence the title, forever chemicals. Besides the frightening environmental implications of synthetic chemicals found nearly everywhere that don’t break down, there are a number of potential health effects.
How PFAS Might Affect Your Health:
PFAS exposure may lead to deleterious health effects such as high cholesterol, changes in liver enzymes, elevated blood pressure during pregnancy, kidney cancer and thyroid disruption. In addition, such exposure may weaken or disrupt the immune response. This last is especially worrisome in the middle of a global pandemic. However, scientists uncovered this problem even before COVID-19 began. Here is a link to a report on the immune system effects of PFOA and PFOS, two forever chemicals, that the National Toxicology Program published in 2016. PFAS in Food Packaging:
In its May 2022 issue, Consumer Reports published an article titled “The Dangerous Chemicals in Your Fast Food Wrappers.” In it, writer Kevin Loria describes an investigation the magazine undertook. Secret shoppers purchased products from a range of restaurants and groceries. Then CR had chemists analyze the products for evidence that they contained forever chemicals. The investigation uncovered quite a range of PFAS levels, with the highest, surprisingly, in paper bags, molded fiber bowls and single use plates. In our interview, Kevin Loria describes what they found and how you can minimize your exposure.
This Week’s Guests:
Linda Birnbaum, PhD, is a toxicologist and scientist emeritus. She was director of the of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences and the National Toxicology Program for many years. Prior to that, she directed environmental health research at the EPA. Dr. Birnbaum served as president of the Society of Toxicology and chaired the Division of Toxicology at the American Society for Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics. She is a scholar in residence at Duke University.
Kevin Loria is a science journalist who covers health for Consumer Reports, including environmental health, health privacy, and fitness. He’s interested in stories about systems or products that harm or fail to protect individuals. His article on forever chemicals in food packaging was published in the May issue of the magazine.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Joe Gradyton and I'm Terry Grady. Welcome to this podcast of the People's Pharmacy. |
| 0:06.1 | You can find previous podcasts and more information on a range of health topics at people's Pharmacy.com |
| 0:14.0 | Have you ever heard of Forever Chemicals? |
| 0:17.0 | They last a very long time. |
| 0:19.0 | What are they doing in fast food paper packaging? |
| 0:22.0 | This is the People's Pharmacy with Terry and Joe Grady. P-fast stands for purr and polyfluor-alcohol substances. |
| 0:39.0 | These forever chemicals are ubiquitous in our environment. |
| 0:42.0 | You find them in cosmetics, water resistant |
| 0:45.2 | clothing, stain repellent carpets, and food packaging. |
| 0:49.2 | P-FAS chemicals are found in water, air, and soil. |
| 0:53.0 | Do they have negative effects on our health? |
| 0:55.0 | We talk with one of the country's leading toxicologists about the health effects of PFAS. |
| 1:00.0 | Coming up on the People's Pharmacy, what can we do about forever chemicals? In the People's Pharmacy Health Headlines, one of the features of COVID-19 that makes it different from most other infections is the risk of long COVID. Many previously healthy people |
| 1:26.1 | report fatigue, brain fog, breathing difficulties, heart problems, dizziness orraines, months after having recovered from the acute infection. |
| 1:37.1 | Doctors have been blindsided by the number of people who are now suffering from persistent symptoms |
| 1:42.3 | of long COVID. |
| 1:44.3 | According to the U.S. Government Accountability Office, |
| 1:47.6 | up to 23 million Americans may be affected. |
| 1:51.5 | Many have been unable to return to work. Physicians don't yet know what the best |
| 1:57.1 | treatment might be for long COVID. The National Institutes of Health have initiated a program called |
| 2:03.0 | Recover to coordinate research on long COVID treatments. |
| 2:07.0 | Scientists wonder whether COVID vaccinations can reduce the likelihood of |
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