All right. I apologize in advance for this long, somewhat sappy introduction. I've been traveling. I think I've been gone like nine out of the last 11 weeks or something crazy like that. The family and I, we've been all over the country doing lots of dad tired conferences and our family camp. We just got back from that a couple days ago. We partner with wind shape family camps. it is one of the highlights of our year we

did dad tired one day conferences all over the country did a father son right of passage trip with other

dad tired dads in alaska it's just been insane and such fruitful like amazing stuff that we've seen

god do in the last few weeks that being said i just feel like i miss you guys like i've kind of

missed the podcast we've we recorded a bunch of episodes ahead of time so that there was one do in the last few weeks. That being said, I just feel like I miss you guys. Like I've kind of missed

the podcast. We've recorded a bunch of episodes ahead of time so that there was one dropping every

week. But me personally like sitting at this desk and just hanging out with you guys, I feel like

has been several months now. So I'm just really excited to slow down a little bit, get back to

focusing on the podcast and having some good

conversations and being with you, blah, blah, blah. Sorry for being so sentimental. I'll just get

straight to it. Sitting down again with my friends, Caleb and Chris, some of my best friends in the

world. And we're talking about what does it look like for us to be the kind of men, husbands,

fathers, disciples that God has called us to. If you haven't signed up for our Dad Tired Retreat, it is coming up so soon. Make sure that you sign up for that today. Go to Daddard.com. Click the annual retreat tab. If you want to do a one-day conference at your church, you can also go to the Dad Tired website and we'll get you some more information on that. Okay, stop blabbering get out of the way let's jump into today's episode all right so we have a couple

of special guests today or if you're listening from the dad tired side of things um jared

kaleb and chris all sitting down together to have a conversation about manhood, parenting, all those things.

And here's a question that I think gets pressed pretty strongly in our cultural moment.

And now you guys are in South Carolina, right?

And we're here right now in San Diego.

And this tension of being a and saying what does the difference

between I'll frame it in this question you your 16 year old wakes up one

morning and you what's your old how old is your oldest 20 21 that's right

almost 15 okay so let's 15. Elijah, right?

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