Should Starmer Strip Activist's Citizenship?
Politics Unpacked
Anna Covell
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🗓️ 29 December 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
The prime minister has been urged to deport Egyptian activist Alaa Abd El Fattah, after he apologised for social media posts apparently calling for violence against Zionists and the police.
But as successive governments backed his release from an Egyptian jail, will anyone listen to critics including Liz Truss?
Ed Vaizey unpacks the politics of the day with Jack Blackburn and Albie Amankona.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Edvasium. We're going to be unpacking the politics of the day, including whether an |
| 0:09.2 | Egyptian democracy activist should be deported, whether political parties have reasons to be optimistic in |
| 0:14.6 | 26, and whether we should all try to be a bit more upbeat. Joining me, and they've both come bounding into the studio so they know what day of the week it is. It's the Times diary editor and history correspondent Jack Blackburn. Welcome to the show. Good morning, Ed. How are you? I'd love to say refresh, but I'm never refreshed. You're wearing a suit? Well, I'm down... What's wrong with you? I'm downstairs in the office. I've got important... You don't need to wear a suit in a newspaper office. Well, I'm demonstrably not looking at you. I mean, it's not aware. Down on floor 11, we're trying to maintain some sort of standards. Appalling. And the broadcaster and conservative commentator Albi Amuncona, welcome to the show. Hello, good morning. You're wearing my fantasy outfit. Am I? A cashmere track suit. Kashmir track suit. Yeah. I think Kashmir lends it an air of class. Well, I thought, I can't just come in a normal track suit, can I, to Times Radio? That might be a bit talk TV. Well, no comment. |
| 1:12.9 | I have this fantasy. |
| 1:18.2 | It's probably sharing too much information about my psychological state of living in a studio flat with seven onesies. |
| 1:21.9 | Gosh. |
| 1:22.7 | Labelled Monday to Sunday. |
| 1:24.9 | And that's all I wear. |
| 1:26.9 | This is the dream. |
| 1:28.2 | How often are we washing these onesies? |
| 1:30.3 | Well, I suppose you'd have two sets. |
| 1:34.8 | You can't, your, a midweek wash is not possible. |
| 1:39.6 | I think there's just something very nice and attractive about just having a very simple outfit that one can wear. I agree. And it's perfect for this time of year. Exactly. But do you go on the tube wearing a cashmere track suit? Well, I got the tube here. So yes. Amazing. There you go. There you see. We better start talking about some. This coming from a man who does have ermine, we have to remind ourselves. |
| 2:03.9 | Right, let's talk about some serious issues. |
| 2:06.5 | This is shaping up to be the political row of the week. |
| 2:11.2 | The Egyptian democracy activist Allah Abdel Fata arrived in the UK on Friday to be reunited with his family after years of diplomatic efforts to get him released. |
| 2:15.8 | Since his return, a series of old tweets have emerged, and they include calls for the killing of all Zionists, including civilians. He's now issued an apology. He says, looking at the tweets, now the ones that were not completely twisted out of their meaning, I do understand how shocking and hurtful they are, and for that I unequivocally apologize. But that is not good enough for the shadow home secretary, |
| 2:35.1 | Chris Philp, who had this to say this morning on Times Radio. This man, in my view, is a scumbag. |
| 2:40.9 | And if the Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood had our country's interests at heart, she would be |
| 2:45.7 | today revoking his British citizenship, and as a dual national, she can do that and initiating deportation |
| 2:51.9 | proceedings. And if I was Home Secretary, that is what I would be doing today. I'd be revoking |
| 2:56.4 | his citizenship and deporting him because there is no place in this country for people who express |
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