And the Hey everyone's Andrew Clavin with this week's interview with Michael Duran, a Middle East expert from the Hudson Institute.

I was recently listening to an interview with from the Hudson Institute.

I was recently listening to an interview with an Israeli journalist named

Haviev Rettieger on Barry Weiss's honestly program, and she asked him what he thought of American foreign policy

as an Israeli and he said America doesn't have a foreign policy it simply has a

culture war and they use their foreign policy as part of that culture war and it has no sense of realism or continuity.

All they ever do is call up the Israelis and say, oh, you know, Obama's in power now.

He's not going to be like the last guy or Trump's in power and he's not

going to be like Obama and that's all they do is basically establish their

culture war credentials. So that is why I wanted to talk to Mike Duran. He is not just an expert on the Middle East, he has always had a

uniquely realistic take on the Middle East, very down to earth. As he once said to me, the idea of

foreign policy is to hurt your enemies and help your

friends which I think is something that we actually do forget here so I'm hoping

he's going to explain what's going on now He is a senior fellow and director

of the Center for Peace and Security

in the Middle East at the Hudson Institute

and co-host of the Israel Update podcast.

So he is here for an Israel update.

Mike, it's good to see you.

How you doing?

Great to be here.

Thanks for having me.

...