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com. IBA has held the craft beer popularity crown for a long time and

while certain preferred characteristics have morphed over the years

the style was typically defined

by its moderately assertive bitterness, noticeable citrus and pine hopperoma, clean fermentation,

and of course clear appearance.

Even earlier regional variants from areas like the Pacific

Northwest and Midwest of the United States were generally a play on that same theme.

That is until relatively recently, of course, when Hayes became all the craze. You're listening to the

Brulosophy podcast. I'm your host Marshall Schott and joining me on this

episode to talk about all things New England IPA is contributor Malcolm Fraser.

The New England IPA, it's kind of funny we we keep talking about it as a newer style, but at some point we have to stop.

Yeah, it's true.

You know, I guess when you compare it to Porter or even, you know

our English I.

English IPA, you know from late 1800s whatever it's new in that regard

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