A lot of these tech bros lean back on free speech arguments to absolve themselves of responsibilities

for the world that they are having a huge hand in creating. Because money is a huge driver for people

and when they can profit off of hate or profit off of ideologies that they also espouse,

if you're not doing something about that as tech bros,

then you are effectively contributing to it.

And I would add, they are profiting from it.

I'm not doing. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us, made in partnership with The Nation magazine.

I'm your host, Maris Marks, and this week I have two guests.

Luke LeBron is the editor of Press Progress, and Rachel Gilmore is an independent journalist.

They have both recently been doing a reporting that touches on the right-wing orientations of the leadership at Shopify.

And if you're not familiar with that company, it makes basically a shopping platform that

allows businesses to set up their own independent stores to sell their products and services

to, you know,

whoever wants to buy them. They've been around for a while, but they really took off during the

pandemic as, you know, people couldn't easily go out to stores and businesses had to quickly

switch to selling their products online. And while their growth has, of course, slowed as

life has gone somewhat back to normal,

they are still the third largest publicly traded company in Canada, where they are based,

and are a major player in the tech industry. But their leadership, like many of these large

tech companies, has a mix of libertarian and right-wing ideals that are shifting more and more

to the right and that I think you could argue have been quite harmful.

Rachel's reporting has looked at the actual leadership that these companies provide and

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