And speaking of shopping, we're going to end today's show with the final edition for this year

of Shop Listener. Today we feature experiences. So for those of you who know the point or don't know the point of

this series, we've been helping WNYC listeners who sell holiday gifts compete with the big box

stores and the big, big, big websites that are named after like rainforests in Brazil.

And they use algorithms as we've adhered to price.

We are inviting those of you who sell today experiences that make good holiday gifts.

You can call right now 212-433, WNYC, 212, 433-962.

9-962.

You can also text.

You can also post them.

Anybody, even if you get on the air, you can post to our webpage for this, which is wNyc.org

slash shop listener.

And we encourage everybody else who's still in the market for a holiday gift to go and browse at WNYC.org

slash shop listener.

You'll see a map there if you want to look geographically.

Of course, some of the things are sold online, so it doesn't matter where you are.

It's searchable in various ways.

WNYC.org slash shop listener.

And our final invite in this series, after we did one for people who sell gifts for kids

and some other categories, today it's if you sell experiences.

One of my favorite categories for shop listener.

Do you operate some kind of classes, cooking class, arts, you know, clay, sculpting, painting,

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