Hello, I'm Jordan Morris. This is not your regularly scheduled podcast, but rather episode

2 of Shootin' the Breeze, a very occasional cheese chat show featuring myself and John

Hodgman. John and I are both podcasters, but also have both worked in cheese shops, hence

the inspiration for this very sporadically released series. Later on in the episode we'll

be talking to author Joe Berkowitz, whose book American Cheese, an indulgent odyssey

through the artisan cheese world is now available wherever you get your books. If you want to

enjoy episode 1 of this podcast, you can go to maximumfund.org slash join and support

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we do talk a bit about dieting in this episode. That talk starts around the 5 minute mark if

you want to skip that section, head to the around 17 minute mark. Okay, enjoy the show.

Jordan Hi. Hi, John. I'm speaking to Jordan Morris, right? Yes. Hi, it's me John Hodgman,

your friend. Oh, I know you from the world of friendship. From the world of friendship

and of course, our award deserving. One episode podcast spectacular called Shootin' the Breeze.

I guess what? This is our second episode. We're back. 2018. Jordan Morris and I got together

because we both had been cheese mongers in our past. I had worked at a wine and cheese

store in London called Jera Bones where I sold some cheese, some A-plus, some pavé d'affine

wine, and also the famous chump cheese stilton. And Jordan, you cheesed monged in silver

lake. Yes, I monged out here. It was an early job when I moved out to LA to try and make

it in show business. And yes, I monged at a place called Say Cheese in Silver Lake, LA's

Hips Silver Lake District. I was terrible at the job. Could not show up on time. Broke

many things. What things did you break? Just little glass things, little glass things

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