Welcome to the Judge John Hodgman podcast. I'm Bale of Jesse Thorn. This week, may it please

Descartes. Dreia brings the case against her husband Morgan. Morgan believes we're all living

in a simulation and he loves to talk about it. Dreia disagrees and does not want to talk about

this any longer. Who's right? Who's wrong? Only one can decide. Please rise as Judge John Hodgman

enters the courtroom and presents an obscure cultural reference. Oh, it's far deeper than any dream.

I wonder where he thinks he is. Sitting on a throne, ruling the universe, all you human garbage

faunting at his feet. More honest, don't you think, than this pretense of being a selfless

podcaster? Bale of Jesse Thorn, please swear the litigants in. Dreia and Morgan, please rise and

raise your right hands. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth,

so help you God or whatever. I do. I do. Do you swear to abide by Judge John Hodgman's ruling,

despite the fact that he has long lived in a simulation, specifically a game of sim ant in a

middle school computer room? Yes. Yes. Judge Hodgman, you may proceed. I have aged, but the sim ants

remain the same age. Dreia and Morgan, you may be seated first before we begin. Let the record show,

please, producer Jennifer Marmer, that we are about to discuss the theory that we are all living in

a simulation, including the theory that that simulation may be being run by beings who are themselves

part of an even larger simulation, so on and so forth, and that this particular discussion is taking

place on this hour day of God or whatever, the 20th of April, 420 good scheduling, Jennifer Marmer.

Yes. Welcome to our 420 episode. We are about a planet that is an atom in the fingernail of an

uncarrying God. Before me now sit Morgan and Dreia for an immediate summary judgment in one of your

favors. Can you guess the piece of culture that I referenced when I entered the courtroom? I am now

able to see you via the magic slash curse of constant teleconferencing. I am looking at Morgan's

face and smile and concern that he is hiding a private glee that he knew this one the moment he

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