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Hi and welcome to the Automotive News Shift podcast, where we bring you the latest on automotive

technology, trends, and transformation.

I'm Hannah Lutz, Director of Technology and Innovation coverage at Automotive News.

And I'm Molly Boygan, tech and innovation reporter at Automotive News.

Today's guest is Samuel DeLeon, CEO of DeLeon Energy, an Israeli battery consulting firm.

Automotive news reporter Richard Truitt met with Samuel at the Battery Show in Detroit on October 8.

CATL, V-O-D, if those companies also heavily developing Solid State Solutions,

with plans to have first pilot production in 2027, 28, and to be with mass production 2030.

But first, let's talk about the week.

Hannah, what was the team working on this week?

So you'll hear in the interview Richard talking about solid state batteries.

He did a lot of coverage of solid state at the battery show here in Detroit this week.

A story you'll find on our website talks about how solid state battery the battery show here in Detroit this week. A story you'll find on our website

talks about how solid state battery, which has long been and still is a goal for the industry,

may not ever become the dominant EV power source in North America. So Richard goes on to

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