Hey guys and welcome to episode 131 of the O. C. D. stories.com

and I'm going to episode 131 of the O.CD storiesD stories dot com podcast.

Now in this episode I interview Shiva Rajai.

I have interviewed Shiva before and I encourage you to check that out.

I will put the link in the show notes of this episode.

But Shiva is a psychotherapist based in America.

And in this, we get an update on her OCD story.

Shiva herself has OCD, so we find out where that's at since we've last chatted.

As we recorded this episode on Friday the 13th, Friday the 13th is obviously quite superstitious time for some people and with

O. C. D. Some people's O. C. D can latch on to that so we use that as a

starting point for the conversation to talk about superstition and how that can play into

O. C. D. We talk about avoidance because she's been covering it quite a lot on

Instagram and obviously avoidance is a huge part of OCD.

We ask, or I ask Shiva about how to accept that there might always be unanswered questions

in the mind.

With OCD we want to answer, we want certainty, we want to answer we want certainty we want to answer that question that what if

She does a good job at answer that I ask her about why the two words

So what are the most important in treatment of anxiety disorders.

We talk a bit about meditation and she gives her personal stance and take on that.

And then plenty more questions after that going into general

OCD recovery and treatment. The audio quality for this is a bit off on this

particular episode. For some reason my voice is quieter than normal but

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