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The Michael Shermer Show

Shermer Says 3: Weird Experiences, the Meaning of Dreams, and What Mark Twain Knew About Reality

The Michael Shermer Show

Michael Shermer

Science, Natural Sciences

4.31K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Michael Shermer explores anomalous experiences through personal anecdotes and historical examples. He reflects on how to balance healthy skepticism with open-mindedness, and how to reckon with the very real emotional significance of such experiences—regardless of the scientific explanations behind them.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, it's Michael Shermer. It's time for another episode of the Michael

0:03.4

Shermer Show. This is the solo commentary, Shermer says. Episode number three,

0:10.1

these have turned out to be hugely popular, so I'm going to keep doing these once a week,

0:14.0

as long as I have something to say. And this one was triggered by an email I got from a

0:20.2

longtime friend of mine named Lon

0:21.6

Haldemand.

0:22.6

Those of you that, a few of you that are into cycling will recognize that name as the winner

0:27.6

of the first Great American bike race, later Race Across America,

0:31.6

1982 and 1983.

0:33.6

Here's Lon.

0:34.6

I wrote a book on this whole thing, the history of Race Across America, now completely outdated. But there he is. So there's a picture of Lon. I wrote a book on this whole thing. The history of race across America, now completely outdated.

0:39.1

But there he is. So there's a picture of Lon right there. Okay. And there's Lon and I riding in the race across America, just so you have an image to look at there. Anyway, I've known Long for a long time. And he went on to put on

0:58.0

transcontinental tours, called Pact Tours, for which his parents often helped, along with his

1:04.8

wife, Susan. And his parents, Ed and Mary Jane, Ed died a couple years ago, and Mary Jane just died a couple weeks ago.

1:14.3

So I got this email from Lon explaining what happened, just to everybody on his list.

1:20.2

And then he added a little paragraph for me because something weird happened here, so I will read you this.

1:25.4

And that's going to lead me talking about the theme of

1:27.9

this episode, which is strange, weird, anomalous experiences that people have and what they might

1:34.4

represent. Okay, here we go. So this was an email October 9th, 2025. Everything went as expected

1:42.8

with my mom's passing. She was very open and practical during the

1:46.3

past year, and she knew she had a good life without regrets. She was totally fine with leaving

1:51.1

this earth. During the past four years, Stephanie from Peru, who was on the Peru National

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