Hey everybody, it's Glenn Thrush with Bologna's Off Message podcast.

I was in Phoenix, Arizona last week talking to Joe Arpaio, the sheriff down there, you know,

the guy who puts pink underwear on inmates and a smooch on the cheek of Donald Trump.

And I had two encounters.

I came in the night before, and I went to a ball game at Chase Field.

I'd recommend that to anybody, even though I couldn't give a damn about the Diamondbacks and the Dodgers.

And I had an encounter with two people that I want to tell you about that.

I think really kind of encapsulates a little bit of the mood of the country, just like a little

snapshot. And it really happened within like 20 minutes of each other. A guy I was sitting next

at the ball game, big, huge Mexican-American dude from Compton in L.A. comes in, and he's in a really surly mood.

I kind of look at his face. He sits down next to me. And then I look down, and he's got this

little five-month-old baby strapped to his chest. So I start smiling, and that kind of changed

the nature of the interaction. Anyway, we get talking, and I ask him why is it the ballgame, and he says, I'm celebrating getting my bachelor's degree. And I said, wow,

that's really cool. And he said, no, I mean, I don't think you understand how important it is.

I went to Compton High School, and I don't know, a single one of my friends who got a bachelor's degree, and it took me six years to do it. And then we got to talking.

He was in the Army for a long time.

He'd done construction.

And he starts just talking to me about what it's like working these construction sites.

And he said, and pardon my language, guys.

He said that a lot of his buddies, his white buddies on this construction site, call him a beaner as a joke, and a spiner as a joke and a spick as a joke and mex as a joke.

And he just kind of, he has to take it more or less.

I said, why do you have to take it?

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