Welcome to Untangle, the podcast from Muse, the brain sensing headband that helps you meditate and sleep and meditation studio, the five-star app.

I'm Patricia Carpice.

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discount code launch 15 if you want to give it a try. Today's guest is Shelly de Gilski.

Shelly's the author of the book, Sit Down to Rise Up, How Radical Self Care Can Change the World.

She's the founder of the grassroots campaign called Pandemic of Love, which is a mutual aid

organization she created during the COVID pandemic so that people could help one another.

Her organization has had more than 2 million peer-to-peer

transactions worth over 60 million in donor recipient transactions. Her mantra, show up for yourself

with radical self-care, and for others in any way that you can. You'll hear much more about

her life and what inspired her here. Now, here's Shelly.

Shelly, it's really great to have you on Entangle today. Thanks so much for being here.

Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here.

Yeah. It was really fun to read your book. I had heard about the pandemic of love, but I didn't really know all of the details that I learned from reading the book. I'm curious about what inspired you to write the book. Tell me a little bit about that. I'd been thinking about or pondering, writing a book for

several years and we get this failure to launch moment because I felt like have I lived enough?

Is there something specific that I want to share with people? What's it going to be about? How would this all be laid out?

Especially if the intent was not for it to really be a memoir, if you will. So I've been ruminating on

the thought of writing a book for quite a few years. And it was really, because actually

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