Shabu-Shabu, the Great Chef Corey Lee and Benu, and Chris Ying
The Dave Chang Show
The Ringer
4.8 • 8.7K Ratings
🗓️ 19 February 2026
⏱️ 67 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey guys, Dave Chang here, and today I'm going to make a dish that I get asked quite a bit, |
| 0:10.0 | and I've never made it for anybody publicly, but it's a real go-to at my house. |
| 0:17.0 | And it's my version of Shaboo Shab. |
| 0:28.1 | Welcome to the Dave Cheng Show, part of the Ringer Podcast Network, presented by Major Dome Media. |
| 0:35.4 | I think before I was married with kids, my wife and I would have a lot of hot pot in New York City. |
| 0:37.8 | There's tons of hot pot places. And then the pandemic happened, and then we couldn't do a lot of hot pot in New York City. There's tons of hot pot places. |
| 0:42.7 | And then the pandemic happened, and then we couldn't do hot pot as much. |
| 0:45.1 | So we started to do a lot at home. |
| 0:51.7 | And the problem with hot pot at home is that with all the spices and all the malaw flavors, |
| 0:55.0 | it's like hard to do inside. And if you've gone to hot pot in, like any of the great hot pot spots, |
| 1:01.0 | like they might put your coat in a bag, right? |
| 1:05.0 | Because it's a very intense sort of smell sometimes, not always. |
| 1:13.7 | That should not deter you from going at all. |
| 1:15.6 | It's just like you should probably dress appropriately. |
| 1:23.8 | And when you're in a house, it's the same reason why you don't want to cook a big steak over high heat because of the smoke and everything. |
| 1:30.1 | So we started to veer, and plus the kids couldn't eat anything spicy. I started to veer this to Shabu Shabu. And my first encounter with Shabu was in 1999 in Wakayama, Japan. |
| 1:39.9 | And one of my days off from teaching English, I went up to Wakayama. |
| 1:45.0 | It was like a 90-minute train ride. |
| 1:47.2 | I go to the mall because that's how I would check my email. |
| 1:50.5 | I would go to the fourth floor of like, I mean, this like what is effectively like the |
| 1:56.3 | Japanese like American girl or something like that because they had this weird little |
| 1:59.4 | computer stand and I would put in 100 yen and I would get like five minutes of email and I would, that's how I |
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