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This is CBSI and the world. I'm John Batchel. Spending time with Daniel Claude,

Professor Daniel Claude, whose new book is Koala, a natural history in an uncertain future.

Daniel's written several books, one of which is the tragic figure in Bambi, fire. And we're going to mention that because that's part of the challenge the

koala must now deal with having survived 24 million years in a continent that was once part of

Gondwana, South America, Antarctica, Australia. It is now on its own in different parts of Australia,

depending upon where the people are. We're going to talk about what they must have, which is

eucalyptus trees. Danielle tells me there are 8 to 900 species of eucalyptus utilists.

Did I write that down correctly, Danielle?

Yes, that's one of the species.

But yeah, eucalyptus is a very big group.

So it's the dominant form of a lot of Australian forests.

The most widespread forest we have is eucalyptus.

But we tend to think of them all as one thing, just eucalyptus, but in actual

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