SEGMENT: Fires, Vulnerability, and Conservation Status GUEST NAME: Professor Danielle Clode SUMMARY: Professor Danielle Clode explains that intense fires burning the canopy leave koalas vulnerable, unable to escape. Frequent, severe blazes combined w
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GUEST NAME: Professor Danielle Clode
SUMMARY: Professor Danielle Clode explains that intense fires burning the canopy leave koalas vulnerable, unable to escape. Frequent, severe blazes combined with fragmentation increase the risk of local extinction.
1936 SOUTH AUSTRALIA
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| 0:32.2 | This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Batchel. It is January 2021. The professor and her family are in the Adelaide Hills and in the distance is a fire, a fire that may or may not approach. But the important thing here is, |
| 0:40.4 | what about the mammals, what about the marsupials, what about everybody in that forest? And this |
| 0:47.9 | part of the book is very hard to read, Daniel, because the way you introduce it, we know bad |
| 0:53.2 | things are going to happen. |
| 0:54.9 | What is the remedy for the koala? |
| 0:59.2 | Do they have anything that can happen? |
| 1:00.9 | Because you describe one scene where the koalas are in the tree in a funeral pyre. |
| 1:06.0 | They can't escape. |
| 1:07.1 | Is that the fate of koalas and fires? |
| 1:12.4 | Yes. Yes. |
| 1:13.7 | Fires are a natural and intrinsic part of Australia's ecology now, |
| 1:20.0 | particularly the eucalypt forests. |
| 1:21.7 | The eucalypt forests are highly flammable. |
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