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Next Up with Mark Halperin

Secrets to Trump's Washington, Trump's War on Harvard, and Why the Dems are Lost in the Wilderness

Next Up with Mark Halperin

MK Media

News, Daily News, Politics

4.8846 Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Mark Halperin begins the show by describing the culture of Donald Trump's Washington in the second term based on a series of conversations he's had with lobbyists on both sides of the aisle. He lays out the keys to get on Trump's good side, his complicated relationship with billionaires, why he'll forgive but never forget, and more. Then Batya Ungar-Sargon and Bridget Phetasy, who also host shows on 2Way, to talk about why Trump is going to war with Harvard and other symbols of the elites, whether average people care about the fight, and more. Then Democratic Rep. Ritchie Torres joins to talk about the state of his party today, how it can reposition itself for the future, and more. And Kim Rivers, CEO of Trulieve, joins to talk about where Trump stands on the issues of medicinal and recreational marijuana, the state of the industries today and what might happen next, whether a federal law to reclassify cannabis could be coming, and more.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome in everybody. I'm Mark Calpren, editor-in-chief of two-way. Thank you for joining our new show. We're still just a little bit of a baby. This is season one, episode nine. Very happy to have you here. My job, as I see it on this program, is to introduce you to things and people that I find interesting and important. Well, we'll do that today.

0:22.3

Richie Torres, Congressman from New York, will be here. He's one of the most interesting

0:25.4

people in the Democratic Party. We'll talk to him about where things stand as far as he sees

0:30.0

it with the party and also whether he'll run for governor of New York. Then two of my colleagues

0:35.1

from Two Way, two of the most interesting people I know,

0:37.9

Bajongar Sargon and Bridget Fetesi are going to be here. We'll talk about what's gone on in politics and

0:44.5

in our culture. And they are two people you should know if you don't. So glad to have them here.

0:50.0

Grateful to them and grateful and grateful for the opportunity to introduce them to those of you who may not know them.

0:55.5

And then Kim Rivers, she's the CEO of True Leave, is one of the most successful American cannabis companies.

1:01.5

And we'll talk about the state of the market economy and cannabis.

1:06.5

A huge topic that doesn't get covered enough by the press on both the recreational side and the

1:11.6

medicinal side, just a huge issue and something that politicians of both parties struggle with.

1:17.4

So again, thrilled to be able to bring all those folks to you today to have that conversation.

1:22.2

I'm also delighted to talk to you about something that I really fascinated by.

1:27.0

Whenever there's a new president,

1:28.8

the culture of Washington, the culture of the presidency, the culture of our nation's capital,

1:34.5

there's a consistency, there's a through line. Some things never change. But every new president

1:39.5

has got a new culture. And what's fascinating to me is to be kind of like an anthropologist,

1:44.0

to try to understand what is Donald Trump's Washington like. And of course fascinating to me is to be kind of like an anthropologist to try to

1:44.4

understand what is Donald Trump's Washington like. And of course, for all of us alive now, this is

1:48.9

unique. We've never had a second term president in a newly elected term. And there's so many

1:54.4

differences between Trump one and Trump two. And I'm interested in policy, but again, I'm also

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