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Next Up with Mark Halperin

Why JD Vance is Far Ahead of 2028 GOP and Dem Contenders, and Newt Gingrich on Trump's Unique Appeal

Next Up with Mark Halperin

MK Media

News, Daily News, Politics

4.8846 Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Mark Halperin breaks down why JD Vance is the runaway favorite to be the GOP nominee and president in 2028 right now, why the current slate of potential Democratic 2028 nominees are so weak, the way to build a "Frankenstein" candidate featuring all the Dems' best traits, and more. Then Newt Gingrich, author of "Trump's Triumph," joins to talk about Trump's unique brand of intelligence, his ability to act in the moment but also show patience, the way his "alpha male" energy helps him politically, the failure of the woke movement, what elites don't get about Trump and his appeal, a coming Democratic civil war between the AOC and Schumer wings, and more.

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody, welcome back to Next Up.

0:04.7

Thank you for joining us for our 10th episode.

0:06.8

We're very happy and excited about building this community and delighted to have you back here or here for the first time,

0:13.7

whether you're watching on YouTube or listening as a podcast.

0:16.7

We're very grateful to you and hope you'll spread the word about Next Up. Like, subscribe, do all that stuff as this program continues to grow.

0:25.0

Next up here will be House Speaker, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

0:28.3

He's written dozens of books.

0:29.6

His new one is called Trump's Triumphs.

0:31.7

He's one of the most interesting people in politics.

0:34.0

And he's kept that status for several decades running. So we'll talk to Speaker Gingrich

0:37.8

about his book, about Donald Trump, about how he sees the landscape on both the Democratic and

0:42.9

Republican side, and couldn't be more delighted to talk to someone again who's one of the

0:48.2

more interesting people I know. His story about Donald Trump's presidency is an intimate one,

0:54.0

because he's known Donald Trump a long time.

0:56.6

And in 2015, he was very skeptical

0:59.1

that Donald Trump would be the Republican nominee.

1:02.1

He saw others, including Jeb Bush,

1:03.7

who was then the frontrunner, as stronger.

1:05.6

We've seen surprises in presidential politics many times.

1:08.7

In 2008, for instance, people said, well, no one predicted

1:12.2

Barack Obama would be the Democratic nominee out of the blue, out of nowhere. Well, I have a different

1:17.1

view. And I want to talk to you about 2028. Some people say it's too early to talk about the next

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