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Next Up with Mark Halperin

Megyn Kelly on Viral Tapper Interview, Plus How to Fix the Media, and Sen. Cotton on D.C. Shooting

Next Up with Mark Halperin

MK Media

News, Daily News, Politics

4.8846 Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Megyn Kelly joins Mark to discuss her explosive interview with Jake Tapper, how she thinks Tapper fell short, and what he still needs to admit about his role in the Biden acuity decline cover-up. Mark lays out a plan for the media to fix its credibility problem, starting with the need for newsrooms to clean house. Plus, Sen. Tom Cotton joins to discuss the D.C. Israeli Embassy staffer shooting, why the U.S. can’t allow Iran to develop a dangerous nuclear capability, and how the influence of the woke left has declined but could come back if Democrats retake power.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to Next Up. I'm Mark Cowper. Thank you for joining to learn what's next up here.

0:13.0

I'm the editor-in-chief of Two-way and the host of this program on the Megan Kelly Network.

0:17.5

We are off to a fast start. Very grateful to all of you for watching on YouTube

0:21.3

listening wherever your finer podcasts are available and all the folks at MK Media for supporting us.

0:27.4

And in celebration of the new MK Media Network, Megan Kelly will be here. We all have a robust talk

0:34.2

about the news or big interview with the authors of that Biden book. And also,

0:38.2

I got some probing questions for Megan about stuff like her favorite movie and where she'd

0:42.4

like to visit. She's never been. So looking forward to talking to Megan. And then Arkansas

0:46.4

Senator Tom Cotton will be here. I think some of you probably think of him as a super serious guy.

0:51.0

And we'll talk about some serious stuff that shooting in Washington on

0:54.6

Wednesday night that's tragic and has a lot of meaning behind it, but also some lighter stuff.

1:02.0

And Senator Cotton is an incredible student of woke culture.

1:07.4

He's had firsthand experience dealing with that. And also, as you'll see, was pretty early

1:12.4

on in seeing the reality of Joe Biden's cognitive decline. So we'll get to all that. But first,

1:19.0

I want to go back to a topic that we've discussed here before, which is the media and the media's

1:23.5

lack of credibility. We've talked about the Democrats also having the lack of credibility for a variety

1:28.1

of reasons related to issues, but also to the failure to acknowledge what was playing the eyes of the

1:35.1

American people and people in conservative media and some independent journalists, which is Joe Biden's

1:40.2

cognitive decline. The press is in a crisis of confidence and credibility over that as well.

1:45.1

And what I have said, you've heard me say it, is that there needs to be a full acknowledgement,

1:50.0

not a, oh, we shouldn't have missed the story, which is now kind of the line that's going around.

1:57.2

But why you missed the story. And the reason that the story was missed, I can tell you from having

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