What's up everybody? Welcome into the NextPats podcast. I'm Phil Perry. We have a Packer Way

edition of NextPats. Today we want to delve into what it means to be a prototypical hacker, so to speak.

We're starting to really prepare for our prototypical Patriots series, which we've done every year.

And we had our thresholds ready to go year after year after year because we knew what Bill Belichick wanted.

And at a lot of positions, it didn't change all that much from the time he started

with the patriots in 2000 all the way through 2023 obviously now with elliott wolf running things

with elliott wolf's dad ron wolf being the hall of fame personnel man that he is and now having

tentacles all over the n the n excuse me, in a variety of different

locales, we have a pretty good idea of what it means to be a prototypical hacker, too.

And we're going to make that shift from prototypical Patriot with Bill Belichick to now this year

with Elliott Wolf. What does that mean? What are the changes involved there?

And we have a great guest to help us detail some of those changes that we will see in real

time come draft weekend.

It's Bucky Brooks of the NFL network does a phenomenal, phenomenal job for them not only

on TV, but on the Move of the Sticks podcast.

You can find his writing.

He ranks his top five players in the draft at every single position each and every year.

Does a fantastic job with that.

But he's a tremendous guest for us this week because he understands the Packerway.

He understands what Ron Wolf was looking for in players when he was the general manager in Green Bay.

Bucky Brooks was drafted in the second round by the bills, but soon thereafter made his way to

Green Bay. Ron Wolf saw something there that he liked. And then as a scout when his playing days

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