This is CBS, I Am the World, I'm John Bashler.

March 29, 1960, New York Times, a full-page ad.

Heed their rising voices.

This is a product of the struggle for civil rights in America in the mid-20th century.

However, it becomes the predicate for a critical Supreme Court decision, Sullivan, New York Times

versus Sullivan, that informs some aspect of the present controversy over Fox News settling

with a firm, a firm that comes into play during election time, that according to the firm

that was settled with, Fox News had gone way beyond the bounds of reporting into advocacy

of a falsehood.

I'm very careful with my language because Professor Richard Epstein is here, of the Hoover

Institution, a senior fellow, and Richard has taught me over the years to be very, very

careful with the choice of nouns and adverbs and adjectives when dealing with the law.

So I've been as careful as possible.

Richard, a very good evening to you in a conversation with your colleague, John U, at the Hoover

Institution, as well as Troysenic.

In a podcast, I recommend to everyone.

You turned not to the Fox case initially, but to explain how the Sullivan case may or

may not inform decisions made by Fox News to settle out of court or before the court

case was to begin.

How does Sullivan inform this and what are your thoughts about Sullivan, which at the time

was understood as a nine to nothing decision by the Supreme Court, about saving the ability

of newspapers such as The New York Times to bring forth controversial issues without

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