And two of my role models for masculinity are Margaret Thatcher and Hillary Clinton.

Hillary Clinton never forgot about protection.

Through her whole life, she's always like, I'm about helping kids, always made a part of her public policy, was always very pragmatic about it.

It was public policy

that would plant trees, the shade of which she would never sit under. I think that is the ultimate

expression of masculinity. We are so happy to have this week's guest here in studio in person. Not a lot of

these get to be in person. I want to

introduce you in the way that we met you a little bit, though. The best people to me are the people

that I stop and soak in every word and then take those lessons and try to use it to inform the

questions I'm asking in two hours of live television and in the weekly podcast. And one of

those people is Scott Galloway. Everything that you create, all of your content, all your podcasts,

and especially your new book about boys and men resonate so deeply with me. So without any further ado,

this is the best people. And this week's guest is Scott Galloway.

Thank you.

Thanks for having me.

Those are very generous comments.

Well, your contributions to the political conversation may not be intentionally impacting how we cover politics.

But I think your lens is one that speaks

to me both as an anger and as a mom.

And I want to dive right into the book and then back into politics if that's okay.

Sure.

I think that we spend so much time figuring out why people voted the way they voted.

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