Listen, there's two ways we could go.

We could, in fact, embrace fascism fully,

which is absolutely the direction that this government is going.

Or we could do what Americans before us have done

and say, hell no, we don't agree with each other about finance.

We don't agree each other about immigration.

We don't agree with each other about foreign affairs.

But by God, we can agree we don't want to be ruled by a handful of rich men who think they're

better than the rest of us.

Welcome to the Best People podcast. This week's guest is one of my Northern Lights, Beacons, Safe Harbors in a Storm.

You pick your cliche.

She's all those things to me.

Chicken Soup for the Soul is one for the past week that I have really been feeling.

And the point is she's that for a lot of people.

I think she is the most subscribed to creator on Substack.

She's the person, former President Barack Obama sought out

for one of his first interviews during Donald Trump's second presidency. Without any further ado

or wind up, welcome to the Best People podcast to Heather Cox Richardson. Thank you.

Well, thank you for having me, and I'm such a huge fan. It's a pleasure finally to meet you.

Thank you.

I had no idea if you would even know who I was because you're so the worm knife through cold butter, like you're the person telling us where we are. And I look to you and look to your reactions and you're framing around absolutely everything. Well, but isn't it really that we're doing the

same enterprise in different ways? That is, you're catching the stuff that's breaking. And I

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