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1001 Heroes, Legends, Histories & Mysteries Podcast

SAY IT AIN'T SO, JOE THE TRUE STORY OF BANNED BASEBALL LEGEND SHOELESS JOE JACKSON

1001 Heroes, Legends, Histories & Mysteries Podcast

Jon Hagadorn

Society & Culture, History

4.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2020

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

In 1919, 8 Chicago White Sox players either participated directly in or failed to report a plan to sabotage the best of 8 World Series games against the Cincinnati Reds for profit.. The Reds won 5 games to 4 and the matter seemed to drop- until the following season,when a grand jury was convened to get to the truth. One of the gamblers involved testified,and some of the players admitted they had been in on the plot. One of the best players on the team, Shoeless Joe Jackson, ,who had played perfectly throughout the series, was named in the scandal and paid for it by being from pro baseball for the rest of his life. Many people today felt he has been unfairly wronged. This is his story. Support our show and checkout www.simplisafe.com/1001! Only 14.99/mo- no long contracts-no tools required. This is a great product- highly reviewed (40,000 Amazon reviews)- we recommend it. NEW Enjoy 1001 Greatest Love Stories on Apple Devices here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1001-greatest-love-stories/id1485751552 Enjoy 1001 Greatest Love Stories on Android devices here: ​​https://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=479022&refid=stpr. Get all of our shows at one website: www.1001storiespodcast.com HERE: (main website all 1001 shows) https://www.1001storiespodcast.com or HERE: at Google Play: https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Iwdojx2zx4jj2xj25fwupwrdcxq or HERE at Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1001-history-challenge/id1482436263 CALLING ALL FANS.. REVIEWS NEEDED FOR NEW SHOWS! REVIEWS NEEDED FOR NEW SHOWS! A SECOND NEW SHOW AT 1001- 1001 HISTORY'S BEST STORYTELLERS- OUR INTERVIEWS WITH SOME OF TODAY'S BEST HISTORY AUTHORS ...LINKS BELOW... all shows available at www.1001storiespodcast.com The Apple Podcast Link for 1001 History's Best Storytellers: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1001-historys-best-storytellers/id1483649026 The Stitcher.com link for 1001 History's Best Storytellers is:: ​​https://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=474955&refid=stpr. SUPPORT OUR SHOW BY BECOMING A PATRON! www.patreon.com/1001storiesnetwork. Its time I started asking for support! Thank you. Its a few dollars a month OR a one time. (Any amount is appreciated). YOUR REVIEWS AND SUBSCRIPTIONS AT APPLE/ITUNES AND ALL ANDROID HOSTS ARE NEEDED AND APPRECIATED! LINKS BELOW... Open these links to enjoy our shows! APPLE USERS Catch 1001 RADIO DAYS now at Apple iTunes! https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/1001-radio-days/id1405045413?mt=2 Catch 1001 Heroes on any Apple Device here (Free): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1001-heroes-legends-histories-mysteries-podcast/id956154836?mt=2 Catch 1001 CLASSIC SHORT STORIES at iTunes/apple Podcast App Now: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1001-classic-short-stories-tales/id1078098622 Catch 1001 Stories for the Road at iTunes/Apple Podcast now: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1001-stories-for-the-road/id1227478901 ANDROID USERS- 1001 Radio Days right here at Player.fm FREE: https://player.fm/series/1001-radio-days 1001 Classic Short Stories & Tales:https://castbox.fm/channel/1001-Classic-Short-Stories-%26-Tales-id1323543?country=us 1001 Heroes, Legends, Histories & Mysteries: https://castbox.fm/channel/1001-Heroes%2C-Legends%2C-Histories-%26-Mysteries-Podcast-id1323418?country=us 1001 Stories for the Road:https://castbox.fm/channel/1001-Stories-For-The-Road-id1324757?country=us Catch ALL of our shows at one place by going to www.1001storiesnetwork.com- our home website with Megaphon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The Oh, Welcome back everyone to

0:27.0

everyone to 1001 Heroes, Legends, Histories, and Mysteries Podcast,

0:33.8

and a Baseball Story for All Time.

0:36.8

A Story that teaches us a lesson,

0:38.9

and a story that begs closure.

0:41.6

The story of Band Baseball legend Shoeless Joe Jackson.

0:45.0

Just for a moment, how would you answer the following question?

0:50.0

We learned from the time we're young, that we're judged by the kind of company we keep.

0:56.6

But I'm not so sure that's true of everybody when you're with a professional team within reach

1:00.7

of a pennant. All of you need to be thinking and performing and

1:04.8

acting as one winning ticket. If a few decide to throw a game it implicate you to

1:12.2

get support of the others without you're okay and you don't participate.

1:19.8

How is that your fault? That's at the heart of the question which has been rolling around

1:26.1

baseball for just over a hundred years now after shoeless Joe Jackson and

1:30.3

seven of his teammates on the Chicago White Sox were accused of cheating or

1:35.0

conspiring to cheat as they conspired to throw the 19-19 World Series to

1:40.1

the Cincinnati Red Sox. The team that won the series, five games to four,

1:44.4

when the winner of the best of eight games, not seven as today,

1:47.9

was declared world champion.

1:49.9

Recent research has pretty much proven that Joe Jackson and at least one other player did not participate by hoping to throw the game.

2:00.0

That at least one newspaper printed some damning information which was not at all factual

2:04.8

and that the record of Joe Jackson's play during the World Series was spotless.

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