Savage Love Episode 396
Savage Lovecast
Dan Savage
4.6 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 27 May 2014
⏱️ 50 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to the micro version of the Savage Lovecast, www.com. |
| 0:06.6 | If you're stuck in a relationship quandary, or if you're looking for sexual harmony, |
| 0:13.7 | while there's nothing you can't ask on the sad is the podcast |
| 0:23.2 | the first time I investigated the organizing swinger scene for skipping towards |
| 0:30.6 | Gamora a book I wrote some years ago which is now available at audible.com by the way |
| 0:34.2 | I was surprised to learn that it was very much a matriarchy that women really |
| 0:40.2 | ran it. And women were really the driving force, the power in the scene rested in the hands of the |
| 0:46.4 | women. And it was explained to me by these guys that I met who were part of the swinging scene |
| 0:51.8 | with their wives that the whole thing hinged upon women |
| 0:55.9 | feeling comfortable and safe. And that if the women, if the wives and the girlfriends felt |
| 1:00.6 | unsafe or harassed or bullied or even annoyed, that the whole thing would collapse if the women |
| 1:07.0 | walked out, the whole thing wouldn't work. So guys who were in any way rude, |
| 1:10.9 | guys who made women at all uncomfortable were immediately on the door. And all it took |
| 1:16.2 | a woman at a play party to get rid of somebody who was harassing her or just making her |
| 1:21.1 | uncomfortable was to say something to the organizers, to say something to the bouncers. |
| 1:24.8 | And that guy was disappeared, taken out in a helicopter |
| 1:29.0 | and thrown into the ocean several thousand miles away, just gone out of that play party. And this |
| 1:33.5 | kind of shocked me because the common trope of swinging is that the husbands want to do it and |
| 1:40.1 | they get their wives to agree to it or their girlfriends. And usually there's some begging or pleading, even manipulation that goes on. |
| 1:47.3 | But in the process of actually getting involved, the script flips, that women may arrive |
| 1:52.3 | at swinging, not all of them, some of them, may arrive at organized swinging, somewhat |
| 1:56.3 | reluctantly, maybe a little dubious, maybe skeptical. |
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