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Savage Lovecast

Savage Love Episode 364

Savage Lovecast

Dan Savage

Relationships, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Sexuality

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2013

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Next week is your chance to get in on the full Magnum season from the very beginning. www.SavageLovecast.com A gay man wonders if he should bring mace to his first date.  Dan consoles a woman who feels horribly guilty for blowing a selfish, but scorchingly hot dude. When a lover threatens suicide as a means to prevent a break-up, is this pure manipulation, or a credible threat? Dan speaks with an expert on suicide prevention.  On the Magnums, Dan speaks with Dr. Meredith Chivers for a What You Got on masochism, and how the different genders and orientations relate to sexy, sexy stimuli in a freaky, freaky lab. (Confidential to musicians everywhere: Please send us a clever and short little jingle to play before "What You Got?" Like really short. Under 10 seconds. Send an MP3 to nancy@thestranger.com, won't you?)  When secret Santas go off the rails. A woman who organizes her family's secret santa exchange wonders if she should have included her lesbian cousin's wife, when they got married in SECRET. Now the whole family knows, including the conservative Christian side. Ho! Ho! Ho! And a ton more. As always.  206-201-2720 This week's episode is brought to you by Tonx coffee. To give their delicious coffee a free try, go to Tonx.org/Lovecast.  This episode is also brought to you by AdamandEve.com. Get 50% off nearly any item when you enter Savage at checkout.

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0:00.0

You're listening to the micro version of the Savage Lovecast, www.com.

0:06.6

If you're stuck in a relationship quandary, or if you're looking for sexual harmony,

0:16.2

while there's nothing you can't pass on the Savage Lovecast. So last week was really interesting for me.

0:25.6

So last week was really interesting for me personally and professionally.

0:28.6

The week sort of began with a couple of protests at my public speaking events, where I go to colleges and I do Savage Love Live Live Live, where I was protested not by the conservative Christian groups or the campus crusade for Christ on a cracker, but by queer groups, by the LGBT resource center who thinks I'm the enemy of the trans and the buy and everything else, which is, you know, whatever, kind of funny.

0:49.3

Like I've said some shit over the years that piss people off and I still have to address it. That's fine. And, you know, I was a self-righteous college activist once myself. It's nice to see that reflected back at me all these years later. But the week ended with me being attacked at the values voters summit. So that was my week. Attacked by queers who think I'm not a good enough queer and attacked by right wing fundamentalist Christian assholes who think I'm a danger to everything good and decent. Called heteronormative by the queer is called a dangerous sex

1:15.7

radical by the fundamentalist Christians. I don't know what to do. But what was interesting, what

1:20.9

they said at the Values Voters Summit, what they attacked, somebody gave a speech in which they

1:26.3

said, beware the monogamish, that their issue now increasingly with me is my long campaign against monogamy, which I am not actually against.

1:38.8

If monogamy is what you want to do, it makes you happy. I think you should be monogamous.

1:41.9

I just think everyone needs to admit that monogamy is difficult and that it's a struggle and that people are unlikely to execute

1:47.6

monogamy perfectly over the life of perhaps a multi-decade marriage and circumstances change

1:52.6

and what's important to you as a couple may change and later in life accommodations may

1:56.7

need to be made. And if we could just be realistic about it, I think more relationships

2:00.6

are likely to survive. That's my monogamy v. non-monogamy platform. I just want everyone

2:06.3

to be happy. And I'm a kind of conservative. Mark Oppenheimer kind of nailed me for that in

2:10.5

the New York Times that half of what I'm saying to people about monogamy is to make families

2:14.9

and relationships and couples, particularly couples with children, more stable,

2:18.1

not less stable.

2:19.7

One of the things that contributes to the instability of super long-term relationships are people

2:24.3

failing at this thing that we know people are very likely to fail at.

2:27.1

We kind of write the death warrant for a relationship at the beginning if we make the perfect

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