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Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda

Saul Perlmutter: The Man Who Upended the Universe

Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda

Bobi NYC

Science, Society & Culture, Comedy

4.83.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

After making the astonishing discovery that what he and his fellow cosmologists thought they knew about the universe was wrong, Saul Perlmutter began a course at his university explaining why catching mistakes is at the heart of science. It’s also a lesson in life for the rest of us.

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0:00.0

This program is sponsored by the Covley Foundation based in Los Angeles, California.

0:06.8

The Covley Foundation is dedicated to advancing science for the benefit of humanity.

0:15.0

I'm Alan Olga and this is Clear and Vivid, conversations about connecting and communicating.

0:24.9

The first time I gave a real scientific presentation, it was to a group at Santa Cruz.

0:34.4

And after I finished the talk, one of the famous cosmologists in the audience stood up

0:41.1

and he turned around to the audience and he said, you know, I just want to point out that

0:44.8

this is really a big deal. This is a completely different picture. And that was the moment

0:50.0

where I stopped and I said, yeah, actually it's a big deal, you know, and it's sort of

0:55.2

somebody else had to help you, you remind yourself that this is really, you know, amazing.

1:01.1

That salt pearl mudder, whose big deal discovery was that the expansion of the universe

1:06.1

isn't slowing down as was long assumed by him and every other cosmologist,

1:11.3

but that it's actually speeding up and at an ever increasing rate.

1:15.6

The discovery won him the Nobel Prize in 2011. We talked soon after the James Webb Space Telescope

1:23.1

reached its parking spot a million miles out in space from where it will peer back farther in time

1:29.2

than any telescope before it. This is a very exciting time to be talking to you. For me anyway,

1:37.2

because what's happening, what's big news right now is that the Webb telescope is right where it

1:43.9

ought to be a million miles out in space, getting ready to take pictures of some of the earliest

1:50.3

events in the universe. This must be an exciting time for you as a cosmologist, no?

1:55.3

Every time we get a new instrument, everybody starts talking to each other about, okay, now what can we do?

2:01.2

What kinds of observations can we take this time? And can we solve any of the problems that we've

2:06.1

been wondering about? And so you watch, in this case, the pedals unfold on this telescope and you just

2:15.7

hope, okay, it's got to do all those little things just right and unfold to that last precision

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