Sarina Wiegman: Leadership, failing, and puffer jackets

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Fearne Cotton

Society & Culture, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Relationships, Personal Journals

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🗓️ 6 November 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Sport should unite people; that’s what England women’s football coach Sarina Wiegman believes, and it’s something she achieved when the Lionesses won the Euros in 2022.

In this chat with Fearne, Sarina explains that succeeding at a high level is important because it provides a platform to drive meaningful cultural change. She also talks about why a good leader should be empathetic to the individual characters of those they’re managing, and why clarity – being clear and honest in communication – is a key value of hers.

Sarina’s book, What it Takes: My Playbook on Life and Leadership, is out on the 9th November.

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0:00.0	Hello and this is the show that understands that every single one of us is a constant
0:09.4	work in progress. Today I'm chatting to Serena Vigman.
0:14.0	There was a period around the World Cup 2019 and I in the conversation I had with a couple of players I just didn't get out of it what I wanted and then at that time like I've worked with sports
0:24.1	psychologists all the time so I talked to her and she said well you you have to ask
0:29.3	better questions and more open questions and just don't answer, just keep asking questions.
0:37.0	And when I start doing that, the conversation has really changed.
0:41.0	And I just, then you're reinforcing, you keep practicing and practicing and think oh the connection gets so much better
0:45.7	you understand you started to understand the person in front of you better too
0:49.4	Serena is widely regarded as one of the best coaches in women's football history and I would say in
0:55.2	football's history. Her rise to the top of the coaching world began after her own successful
1:00.6	playing career and she's had an immense impact on the game as a
1:04.4	player, a coach and crucially a leader. Previously, coach of the women's Dutch team
1:10.6	Serena became England's head coach in 2021 and led the team to their first
1:16.2	trophy as champions of the Women's Euro 2022.
1:21.0	Oh my God, that was such a moment. It felt like just one of the most electric moments of sports
1:26.5	I've personally ever experienced for so many reasons. Unsurprisingly, she's won Best
1:32.3	Women's Coach at the FIFA Awards three times and now she's
1:35.8	written her thoughts down in a new book, What It Takes, My Playbook on Life and Leadership.
1:41.3	Getting to sit down with Serena a few weeks ago was a total joy.
1:45.8	You're here in this chat just how keen she is to always learn more, to change tack, to be prepared
1:52.0	to fail in order to reap the biggest rewards.
1:55.0	I know I certainly learn a hell of a lot from her mindset and I really hope you do too.
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