Welcome to Untangle, the podcast from Use, the Brain Sensing Headband that helps you meditate, and from Meditation Studio, the five-star app.

I'm Patricia Carpice. Today's guest is Sarah Stein Greenberg, the author of a new book called Creative Acts for Curious People, How to Think, Create, and Lead in

unconventional ways. A quote from the inside cover sums it up. In an era of ambiguous, messy

problems, as well as extraordinary opportunities for positive change, it's vital to have both

an inquisitive mind and the ability to act with intention.

This book is filled with ways to build those skills with resilience, care, and confidence.

Sarah is the executive director of Stanford's D-school or design school, and the tools and

the exercises in the book are a gift to the rest of us who've not yet had the opportunity

to go through their programs designed to spark creativity, foster connection, and solve

problems. I am hooked on their work. Now, here's Sarah.

Sarah, it is great to have you on Untangle today. Thanks so much for being with us.

Thank you so much for having me. I'm really looking forward to our conversation.

Yeah, I loved your book. It's so different. On our show, we cover a lot of different topics,

ranging from mindfulness to neuroscience to leadership to anxiety and depression

and this idea of creative acts for curious people and how to really think creatively and lead

in unconventional ways. It's so delightful to be thinking about this. And your book was just fun to read. So I want to start

with learning a little bit more about you, maybe even you as a 10 year old. What were you like as a 10

year old and what inspired your creativity? That is a great question. That really takes me back.

So as a 10 year old, I was already someone who liked to make things.

I think at that point, I had already had my first camera.

My dad is a photographer, and he started me out early, and I would go around the neighborhood

and photograph icicles or interesting trees that actually

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