Welcome to our hen house. This is Jasmine Singer.

This is Marianne Sullivan.

And this week, our guests are Sarah Seleuzo and Jonina Terzi, the co-founders of Lancaster Farm.

They both have Zs in their name.

I just noticed that.

Maybe that's what brought them together.

Maybe they were on some obscure dating app. Anyway, I'm sorry.

For, like, lesbians with Zs in their name.

So anyway, the...

I would be not at all surprised to hear that that actually exists.

Right.

Totally.

It is in the middle of animal agriculture, their sanctuary.

And so, I mean, this is a really powerful story.

And if you've ever wondered whether you would want to have your own animal sanctuary,

I think this interview will convince you that, you know, this is both the absolute best and the absolute

worst idea in the world. I love these women. I love this discussion. It was really special.

I know. I was incredibly pleased with this discussion, you know, because sometimes I'm a little

nervous about sanctuaries because a lot of times mostly animal stories, which are

wonderful, but sadly, they're frequently all the same story.

But this was full of really great animal stories, great people's stories, and just really

great people.

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