Hey, this is the moment. I'm Brian Coppelman. Thanks for listening.

My guest today is honestly one of my three favorite people in the world. My son, Sam Cobleman, Sam, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me.

To Sammy, we got to avoid making this like the Saturday Night Live skit of the Father and Son

podcasting. Yeah, that is of paramount importance,

though I think an inevitability.

No, you mean inevitable that we won't be able to?

That we're going to fail, yeah?

That we will be like the sketch.

I think we already are.

Fuck.

Really?

Yeah, maybe you should back up, do like a sort of more professional intro.

We can obfuscate my relationship to you.

Today, my guest on the moment is Sam. my The case against Donald Trump. Sam is an author, grew up in New York City,

went to, let me check my things,

Harvard University, and then I became a speech writer

or was while at school.

Am I allowed to say you worked on a campaign, a presidential campaign?

No.

I didn't think I needed to prep this interview in the same way I do others with what not to mention.

But you did work on... Are you also going to mention my like sixth grade crushes and sort of other

embarrassing things from my past? All right, so to get serious for a second, the reason that I wanted you on the podcast

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